SO THEY VOTED NO TO DEFEND US DID THEY??

marky · Post by **marky** » 13 Nov 2007, 20:32

who said i was well informed big lad.and for your info im british.

lovejoy · Post by **lovejoy** » 13 Nov 2007, 20:34

marky wrote:who said i was well informed big lad.and for your info im british.

i'll let you off mate, i like a bit of and give and take and love a debate.

It just gets a bit how do i say .... weird ... when people are posting here and even PMing me to claim i'm somebody off the PEC!!!

marky · Post by **marky** » 13 Nov 2007, 20:42

marky wrote:
who said i was well informed big lad.and for your info im british.

i'll let you off mate, i like a bit of and give and take and love a debate.

It just gets a bit how do i say .... weird ... when people are posting here and even PMing me to claim i'm somebody off the PEC!!!

thanks for letting me off will sleep easy in my bed tonite.
who cares who you are no big deal. as long as you can take it and give it without going crying then should be no probs to anyone who you are.
we all like a good debate even if were right or wrong.

lovejoy · Post by **lovejoy** » 13 Nov 2007, 20:46

marky wrote:marky wrote:
who said i was well informed big lad.and for your info im british.

i'll let you off mate, i like a bit of and give and take and love a debate.

It just gets a bit how do i say .... weird ... when people are posting here and even PMing me to claim i'm somebody off the PEC!!!

thanks for letting me off will sleep easy in my bed tonite.
who cares who you are no big deal. as long as you can take it and give it without going crying then should be no probs to anyone who you are.
we all like a good debate even if were right or wrong.

I can take it mate ....... theres just no need to spout s**t and lies about people whatever the circumstances

ianpostie · Post by **ianpostie** » 14 Nov 2007, 02:47

geopip wrote:
lovejoy wrote:
geopip wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:Just a quick heads up,i know who Lovejoy is and have also spoken to him,he's not Irish and is deffo not Noel McLean.
He's just a Postie with bits and bobs of info from sunny Scunthorpe.
Of course he is
Hey what is this? A hunt for Lovejoy season. All I do is post any info that comes through to me and sometimes (times allowing) get involved in debate.

I personally don't care who is who on here. I am definately not on the PEC and have no connections to them. GET THAT IN YOUR HEADS!!!!

If you would rather not have the info / debate thats fine. Just say and I won't bother posting.

I thought the idea of this post was to share and become stronger through our unity. Surely our objective should be to attack Royal Mail and not each other on here?
Stop crying you were happy to try and dish the dirt on Dave Warren over the BBC mailroom pay agreement and yet you can't take somebody doubting your access to info and how quickly you get it

whats the crack with all this lovejoy bashing,the bloke comes on here and posts alot of sense,is it a case of because certain people dont agree with him that they have to have a pop at him?i thought this site was all about freedom of speech?

rathbonepostie · Post by **rathbonepostie** » 14 Nov 2007, 04:59

Can we stop this attempt to "out" Lovejoy!
I don't agree with many of his posts, but that's not the point. We know management monitor royalmailchat, if the idea takes off that we should spend our time identifying people who knows who we would be shopping to them.
Answer his posts, debate the posts, but leave out the attempts to identify people!

mailsort6 · Post by **mailsort6** » 14 Nov 2007, 08:48

Lovejoy, thank you very much for posting important information on this site. I don't care where the information comes from and who is posting them as long as they are factual. Information that is posted on here could be from anyone branch secretaries, central committee members, regional secretaries, area unit reps, divisional reps, pec members,nec members. Therefore, back-off and leave Lovejoy alone.

stubaby · Post by **stubaby** » 14 Nov 2007, 11:10

marky wrote:marky wrote:
who said i was well informed big lad.and for your info im british.

i'll let you off mate, i like a bit of and give and take and love a debate.

It just gets a bit how do i say .... weird ... when people are posting here and even PMing me to claim i'm somebody off the PEC!!!

thanks for letting me off will sleep easy in my bed tonite.
who cares who you are no big deal. as long as you can take it and give it without going crying then should be no probs to anyone who you are.
we all like a good debate even if were right or wrong.

Dont mind a bit of debate but you talk f***ing bollocks there is a difference.

marky · Post by **marky** » 14 Nov 2007, 13:21

stubaby read the whole post.then jog on you mug.

marky · Post by **marky** » 14 Nov 2007, 13:26

like i said who gives a toss who lovejoy is. is it a big deal who he is.

lovejoy keep posting i liked some of your posts and i dont care who you are as long as your not a scumbag manager.

vote no hayes and co to go!!!!!!!

stubaby · Post by **stubaby** » 14 Nov 2007, 13:45

marky wrote:stubaby read the whole post.then jog on you mug.

I did read it all and yes you do talk bollox
you must be a line manager hiding behind this big mr i am when really your a prick who spouts s**t now bore off back to hell mail

marky · Post by **marky** » 14 Nov 2007, 13:47

as i stated JOG ON YOU MUG,

lovejoy · Post by **lovejoy** » 14 Nov 2007, 14:13

marky wrote:as i stated JOG ON YOU MUG,

Didn't your profile used to say you were male? It now says female. You don't even know what you are let alone who i am!!

marky · Post by **marky** » 14 Nov 2007, 14:33

as i said lovejoy dont care who you are.yes i was male but had the op and now im female fancy a date.lol.

go give some money to the N,I branch and lets move on.

Big Daz · Post by **Big Daz** » 14 Nov 2007, 14:45

geopip wrote:
kill Joy wrote:Concerns over GMB in NI are well founded. From my memory of a conference a few years ago the issue was around 2 former members of this union who went to work for GMB one male one female, the name Billy Buchanan rings a bell. They then started to stir the s**t and recruited a few disaffected members. I expect this is where the scabing came from. The criticism of the GMB on this issue is spot on, that doesn't mean the GMB are all crap. I expect there was a lot of sectarian sh*t going down which is exactly what they dont need. Lets hope Pat o'hara's gettin it sorted.

On the BBC mailroom my source confirms what has been said with warrens vote for a 2.5% increase, i also understand that some who voted for the RM deal voted against. Feckin strange if you ask me, but we weren't there so who knows?

I dont have a particular prolem with the way warren or anyone else votes provided it is honest and consistant with there actions. I have posted facts on the PEC unanimously voting on a document that stated that the the RM Pay increase was acceptable. If you want details see my post on PEC Revalations under the Pay & Modernisation Forum. Have alook and make your own mind up.

Please remember none of us can make an informed view without the facts so lets not slate those who provide it.
I don't quite see your point on Dave Warren voting for 2.5% pay increase for BBC mailroom workers I don't believe Dave took his stance on the Royal Mail deal solely on pay itâ€™s the strings attached that worry him and should worry us.
Yet you seem to be trying to cast aspersions on him because he voted against the RM agreement and has come out and spoke publicly a brave thing no matter how you view it, the CWU HQ barons mercers Ward, Hayes, Candy, Colbett, Sampson and Slocombe wonâ€™t make life easy for him in the future. It is very strange that those really influencing and running the Union with the exception Ward and Hayes are unelected employees of the Union and not the National Officers we elect.

Colbett is that John Colbert you are referring to or somebody with a similar surname?

Just for the record JC before HQ was a elected rep/officer and was Eastern regional secretary.

Your post does raise an intresting point though about elected/unellected officers, do we want a union were every HQ job is elected?

I was told by my course tutor when i did TUC health and safety at a localish college that we (CWU) were rare in that we had a elected national health and safety officer (Currently Dave Joyce) so its not all bad news on the numbers of appointed officers in CWU.