Hello and thanks for use of this forum.
I sent 2 almost identical contents and same size parcels signed for to China.
#1 Posted 1250 4 Sept. Despatched from Peterborough 1927 4 Sept. Received Langley 2316 on 6 Sept. Current status is (1027 9 Sept)
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"We have received your item at LANGLEY HWDC, our international processing centre. Your item is being prepared for despatch overseas."
#2 Posted 1252 4 Sept. Despatched from Peterborough 1927 4 Sept. Received Langley 1229 6 Sept. 0332 6 Sept Leaving UK Langley. 0133 9 Sept arrived Beijing.
These parcels each contain 2 similar electronic capacitors that have a steel casing. Parcel weight 1.374kg. Not in any way restricted or prohibited items. I have sent a few times before no problem. I suspect the delay is because someone has maybe x-rayed, didn't recognise it and decided it should be opened for examination? If so, tracking may eventually say something about this?
CN22 description was "Steel cased electronic capacitors" with value of £88. Signed, dated and return address as well.
What I would like to know is, who employs and trains the person making such a decision. RM or CAA?
Just checked and I also have a small steel cased electrical transformer (1.14kg) posted same day that has suffered the same fate as #1!
Thanks, Rob
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Snaggletooth
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As I understand it, the person is employed by the Royal Mail. They are looking for items which contravene CAA rules (themselves based on the IATA rules), Chinese customs regulations and possibly RM’s internal rules.
A couple of potential problems could occur with these items:
1. They might look very similar to lithium ion batteries, which are restricted by the CAA and banned by China;
2. If they are used parts from cars, boats etc then these often fall foul of the IATA’s ban on mineral oils.
A couple of potential problems could occur with these items:
1. They might look very similar to lithium ion batteries, which are restricted by the CAA and banned by China;
2. If they are used parts from cars, boats etc then these often fall foul of the IATA’s ban on mineral oils.
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Thanks for the reply. Neither of what you suggest. I suppose a quick xray without understanding the cn22 declaration and they could get the wrong idea.
Just have to wait and see what happens.
Thanks for your time, Rob
Just have to wait and see what happens.
Thanks for your time, Rob
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SpacePhoenix
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Is there a model/component id number for the capacitors?
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sholland
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The printed information is the value in microfarads (8uF) and working voltage (750V DC). These are sealed steel cans with 2 ceramic terminals for the connections.
Capacitors are a component found in all electronic items, large and small. The bigger value (% Farads) they are, the greater the energy they could possibly store when charged. Yes, that could pose a hazard. As could every other electronic item that there is, even if NO battery is fitted!
Even 2x 2p coins spaced a few mm apart either side of a sheet of paper would exhibit tiny values of capacitance, in picofarads.
BUT, I have 50+ years experience in electronics. I check for prohibited or restricted items and take NO chances with any components when posting. These capacitors (and all my others) have a copper wire link that I fit to join the two terminals together. I am not aware of any companies that go to such lengths either! This ensures that even if a plane were struck by lightning, it would be impossible for my capacitors to take or hold ANY charge or be any hazard.
I asked (email) RM customer services if Capacitors were a prohibited item. They replied, NO. BUT certain countries could ban such imports. (Not China afaik).
Since RM CS answering my question, tracking now shows being sent to NRC as possible dangerous items:
" We'll attempt to redeliver this item, as instructed.
Find out more about Redelivery.
Tracking no. RU.........GB
This parcel has been identified as containing items suspected of being prohibited or dangerous. The contents are being examined. If found to be compliant, the parcel will be delivered to the intended recipient. Posting prohibited or dangerous items may be a breach of transport regulations and/or Royal Mail terms and conditions. If we do find any such item(s) we may dispose of them "
My only concern is some unknowledgeable employee could google just one aspect of a capacitor, i.e. "CAPABLE OF HOLDING AN ELECTRICAL CHARGE", decide "aah, so it is a BATTERY then, not a capacitor!" and destroy it!
I do hope not!
So, that is all I know.
Thank you for your reply.
Capacitors are a component found in all electronic items, large and small. The bigger value (% Farads) they are, the greater the energy they could possibly store when charged. Yes, that could pose a hazard. As could every other electronic item that there is, even if NO battery is fitted!
Even 2x 2p coins spaced a few mm apart either side of a sheet of paper would exhibit tiny values of capacitance, in picofarads.
BUT, I have 50+ years experience in electronics. I check for prohibited or restricted items and take NO chances with any components when posting. These capacitors (and all my others) have a copper wire link that I fit to join the two terminals together. I am not aware of any companies that go to such lengths either! This ensures that even if a plane were struck by lightning, it would be impossible for my capacitors to take or hold ANY charge or be any hazard.
I asked (email) RM customer services if Capacitors were a prohibited item. They replied, NO. BUT certain countries could ban such imports. (Not China afaik).
Since RM CS answering my question, tracking now shows being sent to NRC as possible dangerous items:
" We'll attempt to redeliver this item, as instructed.
Find out more about Redelivery.
Tracking no. RU.........GB
This parcel has been identified as containing items suspected of being prohibited or dangerous. The contents are being examined. If found to be compliant, the parcel will be delivered to the intended recipient. Posting prohibited or dangerous items may be a breach of transport regulations and/or Royal Mail terms and conditions. If we do find any such item(s) we may dispose of them "
My only concern is some unknowledgeable employee could google just one aspect of a capacitor, i.e. "CAPABLE OF HOLDING AN ELECTRICAL CHARGE", decide "aah, so it is a BATTERY then, not a capacitor!" and destroy it!
I do hope not!
So, that is all I know.
Thank you for your reply.
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Any sort of oil within them?
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sholland
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I see where you are coming from.
Yes, in the form of paper insulation that was coated in it prior to sealing within a steel case prior to manufacture afaik.
Not as a liquid you could hear swishing around though.
So, that may be the reason then.
I will have to wait and see.
Thank you to you all for your help on here.
sholland
Yes, in the form of paper insulation that was coated in it prior to sealing within a steel case prior to manufacture afaik.
Not as a liquid you could hear swishing around though.
So, that may be the reason then.
I will have to wait and see.
Thank you to you all for your help on here.
sholland