Sent to different depot unfair work load

NewPostieUK · Post by **NewPostieUK** » 31 Aug 2018, 19:00

Maxwell1979 wrote:I'm part time 9 till 2

quote="Maxwell1979"] Just had text different depot again tommorow please be there by 08.30 it's 45 mins away??[/quote]

Tell him no, you'll be there at 9:45.

And that's if the lift he has arranged is on time.

Destiny · Post by **Destiny** » 31 Aug 2018, 19:50

osgoody1970 wrote:the procedure for working in other offices is... you start on your time at your office, they have to provide transport for you to get to the other office, then you have to be given enough time to travel to your own office for your finish time, with transport provided, do not let them tell you otherwise, if you are in any doubt, consult your union rep or branch!!!

It's changed, often now new starters can get variation by way of "home office" but can be classed as regional reserves also.
They are contracted to travel within a geographical area themselves.

Check you contract first op.

Post by **Brandy** » 31 Aug 2018, 21:01

tommyrep wrote:
Maxwell1979 wrote:Got sent to a different depot today got given 11 loops to take out bymyself with no geographical knowledge of the area. 1hrs travelling time so finished an hour early with 3 loops brought back then had heated discussion with manger as to why I was finishing and stuff was brought back only been with royal mail 7 months is this the usual thing??
Basic delivery bullying by so called “ managers”
They really do not have a clue. The travel time bears no relevance to these idiots.
They only see a duty, that duty is covered by A.N. Other, sorted ,!
They have no skill or ability to deal with anything other than that.
Anything other than the duty being done fully results in intimidation.
They have become so used to other people digging them out of a s**t hole, they take it as a given, throw the dummy out the pram and start the slagging/bullying/intimidation game.
Unfortunately do not expect much sympathy from colleagues or the Union for that matter, YOU are leftover the dogs.
Totally wrong and unacceptable treatment to endure. Stick to your guns, only work your contracted hours and go home.
Then complete a grievance complaint against the manager. And hope you do not get sent back. These twats and their DOM pals have a habit of carrying a grudge, cover yourself at all costs.

I see nothing changes then.

MinTee · Post by **MinTee** » 31 Aug 2018, 21:54

Can’t believe some people get work communications via text message. I often get called but I never answer because it’s always them begging me to do a favour. If I was texted I’d outright ignore it or just delete it.

If they have a problem, you never received a text, or you think it’s not very professional your manager is texting you on your personal mobile. They have no right to search your phone for proof either. Stick to your guns. Tell them you’re starting at your contracted time and traveling to the office in your time as is your right. Also tell them if you receive any more texts from management telling you (demanding) your start be earlier (at a location further away than normal, you’ll be putting in a grievance.

Post by **Navalron** » 31 Aug 2018, 23:10

Destiny wrote:
osgoody1970 wrote:the procedure for working in other offices is... you start on your time at your office, they have to provide transport for you to get to the other office, then you have to be given enough time to travel to your own office for your finish time, with transport provided, do not let them tell you otherwise, if you are in any doubt, consult your union rep or branch!!!
It's changed, often now new starters can get variation by way of "home office" but can be classed as regional reserves also.
They are contracted to travel within a geographical area themselves.

Check you contract first op.

Yes it's changed but what has not changed is the start at your own office and finish at your own parent office. The problem is that most posties would probably not even bother with these regulations if the screws treated them fair and with a bit of respect. They would get more out of posties but there that stupid and ignorant that they just f**k everything up. Send them to any other parcel/mail operator and they would last about 2 days, maybee.

comeracing · Post by **comeracing** » 31 Aug 2018, 23:41

Maxwell1979 wrote:Could of lost my job today so had to bite my tongue so called managers can't manage!! I've worked in a few places never had to deal managers like this one thing is I won't be bullied. I'll see how tommorow goes but perhaps as I spoke to my manger about it they may hold that against me!!

tomorrow will go ok manager will be home for 12 noon

world class male · Post by **world class male** » 01 Sep 2018, 05:59

[/quote]
Yes it's changed but what has not changed is the start at your own office and finish at your own parent office.[/quote]

1st thing i would be explaining the situation with your union rep to clarify the start/finish times at which office, then make him/her tell the dom this is the agreement.
unsure if there is now a clause in new starters T&C's but 2nd thing i'd be checking is car insurance, possibly breaking your policy details by going direct to another office,
maybe have a word with dom and say you're not insured to drive own vehicle to other office but can pick a van up from here then go,
think the only proviso RM have to new starter posties ( assuming you are ) is to be able to drive, not own a car too, 45 mins further away is quite a bit unless city centre driving,
sure you said its in the garage getting repaired

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 01 Sep 2018, 06:33

Navalron wrote: Yes it's changed but what has not changed is the start at your own office and finish at your own parent office.

No.
They are area reserves with a contract to work at any office in the area.
The contract is different. Just as some of them have Sunday in their contract now.
The original poster needs to check his contract first.

tommyrep · Post by **tommyrep** » 01 Sep 2018, 09:41

osgoody1970 wrote:the procedure for working in other offices is... you start on your time at your office, they have to provide transport for you to get to the other office, then you have to be given enough time to travel to your own office for your finish time, with transport provided, do not let them tell you otherwise, if you are in any doubt, consult your union rep or branch!!!

Thanks for clearing up that point, I thought that was the procedure but did not want to ill advise.

tommyrep · Post by **tommyrep** » 01 Sep 2018, 09:45

Maxwell1979 wrote:It's no wonder so many quit they treat us new ones like dirt maybe not the job for me

Don’t take it personally, they will try and push their luck with newbies.
Managers are a devious horrible bunch in reality with very few acceptions.
Best advice, join the union pronto ! Don’t let them bully you - EVER.

Post by **Navalron** » 01 Sep 2018, 12:20

clashcityrocker wrote:
Navalron wrote: Yes it's changed but what has not changed is the start at your own office and finish at your own parent office.
No.
They are area reserves with a contract to work at any office in the area.
The contract is different. Just as some of them have Sunday in their contract now.
The original poster needs to check his contract first.

Thanks for letting me know clashcityrocker. I knew that the new starts could be sent to any office but I thought that they would still need to report at their NORMAL office. This policy is just taking the piss. It's the same as TH advertised a posties job just yesterday for a 30hr contract but the hours were 7 to 9, then home then back in from 1500 to 1900. This is a split shift, although their is a payment you get for it, on the job advert it didn't say anything about it, surprise surprise.....

mrcurve · Post by **mrcurve** » 01 Sep 2018, 12:21

Make sure you have Business insurance if you travel by car to other offices, Social and commuting insurance only covers for driving back and forth to a permanent place of work.

world class male · Post by **world class male** » 01 Sep 2018, 18:26

clashcityrocker wrote:
Navalron wrote: Yes it's changed but what has not changed is the start at your own office and finish at your own parent office.
No.
They are area reserves with a contract to work at any office in the area.
The contract is different. Just as some of them have Sunday in their contract now.
The original poster needs to check his contract first.

agree given the T&C probably now built into contracts, i'd never heard of not having a "home" but if true their car insurance definitely needs checking if any office is construed as their place of work

Seymour Buts · Post by **Seymour Buts** » 01 Sep 2018, 18:35

Glad our office is so short staffed constantly they're far more likely to be dragging people in than sending us elsewhere! I'm quite happy moving around being reserve in my office, I'd draw the line at moving to another though. People will work the odd rest day elsewhere on the (very) rare days that isn't an option at our place but even another day's pay couldn't tempt me.

Maxwell1979 · Post by **Maxwell1979** » 02 Sep 2018, 20:39

It wasn't to bad Saturday put with another postie this time all be it on the biggest duty in the office!! Managed to finish on time so no drama with the manager this time just wait and see what Monday has in store for me lol