PDA data being checked by manager's

cpsteve · Post by **cpsteve** » 23 Jul 2018, 18:55

If our workload is too much then the PDA data will show that up, if there is scope to cut then there will be cuts, the message is start on time take breaks try to deliver all your packets if time allows, do not run drive fast take shortcuts and do not lie if asked about your whereabouts as that will be checked against the PDA data. Be safe in this very hot weather.

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 23 Jul 2018, 20:29

SpacePhoenix wrote:
steve1873 wrote:
notsure.com wrote:
A2B wrote:
NewPostieUK wrote:
steve1873 wrote: Once you enter the geofence, it is assumed you will be signing out 5 mins thereafter. 10 mins if you are on a singleton duty.
Why assume anything? Surely it's written down in black and white when you sign out?
It could take you 5mins to get parked in some offices
Takes way more than 5 minutes for me to get a york to load all my P739 returns onto, unload the van then take my stuff inside. I then have to take the van to the local council car park (too many vans for our yard), find a space and then walk back to the office. Only then can I sort out my returned packets into the appropriate york, hand my keys in, dock my PDA and then most importantly fill out my docket
That is a fair point and this will be taken in to account I am sure. I was referring simply to most DO's with on-site parking and where the locker is on same floor. It is simply used as a guide whereby entering the geofence signifies the return time. The time taken for ancillary tasks at end of shift is something that would be negotiated during revisions at a local level.
What would be a rough average % across the country of vans that can't be parked on the DO site and so have to be parked off-site? Do the Tracked items in a DO get processed on the floor or in the SD lockers (presumably any docket left Tracked items get stored wherever the normal docket left items are stored)?

Returned tracked items have to be handed into the callers office and the person in the callers office will then zap them as being returned to the DO. Tracked items that have been P739 are usually stored separately to other or ordinary packets & parcels.

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 23 Jul 2018, 21:03

steve1873 wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
Newbie001 wrote:Lots of postie's at ours I've noticed log off as soon as they've posted last letter, some as soon as they get back to office. And almost all of the office take 20 mins at end. Wonder what the data would say about this. Interesting times ahead.
Say it takes them about 40mins to get from wherever the last letter is delivered back to the DO, and say it takes 30mins to do whatever they have to DO in the DO when they get back (hand in 739s, PDA, van keys, etc). If they're logging off as soon as they deliver the last letter, higher up will possibly see that as 70mins that can potentially be taken out of the office
Once you enter the geofence, it is assumed you will be signing out 5 mins thereafter. 10 mins if you are on a singleton duty.

Full time staff are entitled to take the second 20 minutes of their break time when they arrive back from delivery. Once the AHDC is implemented and combined with PDA data it should be possible to fix problems in DOs. Well........we can hope.

Post by **fly-catchers** » 23 Jul 2018, 23:17

Nothing that RM has introduced in the 30 odd years I have worked here has ever made the job better or fairer. This won't either..

Hitcher · Post by **Hitcher** » 27 Jul 2018, 11:59

Newbie001 wrote:Lots of postie's at ours I've noticed log off as soon as they've posted last letter, some as soon as they get back to office. And almost all of the office take 20 mins at end. Wonder what the data would say about this. Interesting times ahead.

I never log off - it gets done when they plug them in to the charging station.

LaggyBand · Post by **LaggyBand** » 27 Jul 2018, 12:55

Hitcher wrote:
Newbie001 wrote:Lots of postie's at ours I've noticed log off as soon as they've posted last letter, some as soon as they get back to office. And almost all of the office take 20 mins at end. Wonder what the data would say about this. Interesting times ahead.
I never log off - it gets done when they plug them in to the charging station.

That’s a nice tip, thanks

twoloops · Post by **twoloops** » 03 Aug 2018, 17:58

Just wondered can you still do it the old way give it to the next door neighbour & just put a 739 card telling them your neighbours got it?

Also while I'm here I've seen some "Signed for letters" saying neighbour on the PDA can you get a neighbour to sign for it & then just post it?

LaggyBand · Post by **LaggyBand** » 03 Aug 2018, 20:49

mattycash wrote:Just wondered can you still do it the old way give it to the next door neighbour & just put a 739 card telling them your neighbours got it?

Also while I'm here I've seen some "Signed for letters" saying neighbour on the PDA can you get a neighbour to sign for it & then just post it?

Do whatever your PDA tells you to do. The PDA is your everything now.

MAILMAN84 · Post by **MAILMAN84** » 17 Aug 2018, 20:53

LaggyBand wrote:
mattycash wrote:Just wondered can you still do it the old way give it to the next door neighbour & just put a 739 card telling them your neighbours got it?

Also while I'm here I've seen some "Signed for letters" saying neighbour on the PDA can you get a neighbour to sign for it & then just post it?
Do whatever your PDA tells you to do. The PDA is your everything now.

Kill your manager...kill your manager....SHUT UP PDA I WON'T....

LaggyBand · Post by **LaggyBand** » 18 Aug 2018, 21:02

MAILMAN84 wrote:
LaggyBand wrote:
mattycash wrote:Just wondered can you still do it the old way give it to the next door neighbour & just put a 739 card telling them your neighbours got it?

Also while I'm here I've seen some "Signed for letters" saying neighbour on the PDA can you get a neighbour to sign for it & then just post it?
Do whatever your PDA tells you to do. The PDA is your everything now.
Kill your manager...kill your manager....SHUT UP PDA I WON'T....

If your PDA told you to you’d probably be covered.

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 19 Aug 2018, 06:50

mattycash wrote:
Also while I'm here I've seen some "Signed for letters" saying neighbour on the PDA can you get a neighbour to sign for it & then just post it?

No.
The neighbour signs for it and that is where you leave it.
You leave a slip at the original address advising the customer where the letter is.

2Shedz · Post by **2Shedz** » 21 Aug 2018, 08:09

They have stuck an extra collection on our pdas with a barcode in the office you have to scan when you get back
Just another means of showing when we are back.

Smiffy

itllnottouchyou · Post by **itllnottouchyou** » 21 Aug 2018, 13:27

2Shedz wrote:They have stuck an extra collection on our pdas with a barcode in the office you have to scan when you get back
Just another means of showing when we are back.

Smiffy

Yip they have done this in our delivery office too. So we can’t log out after the last letter as it still has a job left on it. As a lot of our posties were doing

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 21 Aug 2018, 22:51

2Shedz wrote:They have stuck an extra collection on our pdas with a barcode in the office you have to scan when you get back
Just another means of showing when we are back.

Smiffy

Yeah we have started doing that this week too. I think we were told its to check everything has been signed for or something. To me it seems like implementation of AHDC before the trials for that have ended but there we go. On the other hand it will nail down the time Postie's are actually finishing as opposed to what times some write on the signing on sheets. RM are going to have so much data that eventually I think we are all going to get kicked in the face. It isn't going to be pretty.

Your late today · Post by **Your late today** » 22 Aug 2018, 14:53

In our office only the postie collecting from boxes on their rounds have to scan that bar code to show they have brought the mail back in time for dispatch I’m lucky I haven’t any boxes to collect as they are done on an afternoon collection.