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steve1873
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Post by steve1873 »

My understanding is that whilst you are still technically allowed to take 20 mins of MR at end of duty, i.e. sign out 20 mins before contracted finishing time, returning to the office and thus entering the geofence will flag this up as a potential saving for the unit, whether it be you meal relief or not. Added up it will show a potential x amount of hours saving per week per unit. Of course, you can argue the case thereafter when they come to take hours from office, but by then it will possibly be too late. So my advice would be to use all MR either prior to going out on delivery, whilst still within the geofence or split it with 20 mins prior to going out and 20 mins whilst out on delivery/ outwith the geofence on that basis.
themaze
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Post by themaze »

steve1873 wrote:My understanding is that whilst you are still technically allowed to take 20 mins of MR at end of duty, i.e. sign out 20 mins before contracted finishing time, returning to the office and thus entering the geofence will flag this up as a potential saving for the unit, whether it be you meal relief or not. Added up it will show a potential x amount of hours saving per week per unit. Of course, you can argue the case thereafter when they come to take hours from office, but by then it will possibly be too late. So my advice would be to use all MR either prior to going out on delivery, whilst still within the geofence or split it with 20 mins prior to going out and 20 mins whilst out on delivery/ outwith the geofence on that basis.
What about taking the full 40 mins out on delivery ?
matthew68
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Post by matthew68 »

themaze wrote:
steve1873 wrote:My understanding is that whilst you are still technically allowed to take 20 mins of MR at end of duty, i.e. sign out 20 mins before contracted finishing time, returning to the office and thus entering the geofence will flag this up as a potential saving for the unit, whether it be you meal relief or not. Added up it will show a potential x amount of hours saving per week per unit. Of course, you can argue the case thereafter when they come to take hours from office, but by then it will possibly be too late. So my advice would be to use all MR either prior to going out on delivery, whilst still within the geofence or split it with 20 mins prior to going out and 20 mins whilst out on delivery/ outwith the geofence on that basis.
What about taking the full 40 mins out on delivery ?
Where do you take your break if you have hct? Also it’s not practical to take breaks in van, as either too hot or too cold plus too close to your partner,surely if we have to take break your employer have to provide a toilet and somewhere to actually sit down in comfort
k979aaa
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Post by k979aaa »

matthew68 wrote:
themaze wrote:
steve1873 wrote:My understanding is that whilst you are still technically allowed to take 20 mins of MR at end of duty, i.e. sign out 20 mins before contracted finishing time, returning to the office and thus entering the geofence will flag this up as a potential saving for the unit, whether it be you meal relief or not. Added up it will show a potential x amount of hours saving per week per unit. Of course, you can argue the case thereafter when they come to take hours from office, but by then it will possibly be too late. So my advice would be to use all MR either prior to going out on delivery, whilst still within the geofence or split it with 20 mins prior to going out and 20 mins whilst out on delivery/ outwith the geofence on that basis.
What about taking the full 40 mins out on delivery ?
Where do you take your break if you have hct? Also it’s not practical to take breaks in van, as either too hot or too cold plus too close to your partner,surely if we have to take break your employer have to provide a toilet and somewhere to actually sit down in comfort
I agree should we form a UNION that agrees with us ?
aiden01
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Post by aiden01 »

k979aaa wrote:
matthew68 wrote:
themaze wrote:
steve1873 wrote:My understanding is that whilst you are still technically allowed to take 20 mins of MR at end of duty, i.e. sign out 20 mins before contracted finishing time, returning to the office and thus entering the geofence will flag this up as a potential saving for the unit, whether it be you meal relief or not. Added up it will show a potential x amount of hours saving per week per unit. Of course, you can argue the case thereafter when they come to take hours from office, but by then it will possibly be too late. So my advice would be to use all MR either prior to going out on delivery, whilst still within the geofence or split it with 20 mins prior to going out and 20 mins whilst out on delivery/ outwith the geofence on that basis.
What about taking the full 40 mins out on delivery ?
Where do you take your break if you have hct? Also it’s not practical to take breaks in van, as either too hot or too cold plus too close to your partner,surely if we have to take break your employer have to provide a toilet and somewhere to actually sit down in comfort
I agree should we form a UNION that agrees with us ?
Most members usually agree with cwu.
k979aaa
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Post by k979aaa »

aiden01 wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
matthew68 wrote:
themaze wrote:
steve1873 wrote:My understanding is that whilst you are still technically allowed to take 20 mins of MR at end of duty, i.e. sign out 20 mins before contracted finishing time, returning to the office and thus entering the geofence will flag this up as a potential saving for the unit, whether it be you meal relief or not. Added up it will show a potential x amount of hours saving per week per unit. Of course, you can argue the case thereafter when they come to take hours from office, but by then it will possibly be too late. So my advice would be to use all MR either prior to going out on delivery, whilst still within the geofence or split it with 20 mins prior to going out and 20 mins whilst out on delivery/ outwith the geofence on that basis.
What about taking the full 40 mins out on delivery ?
Where do you take your break if you have hct? Also it’s not practical to take breaks in van, as either too hot or too cold plus too close to your partner,surely if we have to take break your employer have to provide a toilet and somewhere to actually sit down in comfort
I agree should we form a UNION that agrees with us ?
Most members usually agree with cwu.
Not since the last two so called agreements are they in bed with the devils that berate us day in and out a union is nothing without members support in this day and age should have proactive support at the front line not just say im'allright jact attitude it now has!
lightningpostman
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Post by lightningpostman »

matthew68 wrote:
themaze wrote:
steve1873 wrote:My understanding is that whilst you are still technically allowed to take 20 mins of MR at end of duty, i.e. sign out 20 mins before contracted finishing time, returning to the office and thus entering the geofence will flag this up as a potential saving for the unit, whether it be you meal relief or not. Added up it will show a potential x amount of hours saving per week per unit. Of course, you can argue the case thereafter when they come to take hours from office, but by then it will possibly be too late. So my advice would be to use all MR either prior to going out on delivery, whilst still within the geofence or split it with 20 mins prior to going out and 20 mins whilst out on delivery/ outwith the geofence on that basis.
What about taking the full 40 mins out on delivery ?
Where do you take your break if you have hct? Also it’s not practical to take breaks in van, as either too hot or too cold plus too close to your partner,surely if we have to take break your employer have to provide a toilet and somewhere to actually sit down in comfort
you drive back to the office and once you have secured your van /hct you go into building and start your 40 minute break then, after the full 40 minute break get back into van and resume delivery.

away from your usual place of work dont mean inside a van parked after a loop or beside your hct, toilet canteen/vending machine all at your dissposal.
BELIAL
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Post by BELIAL »

aiden01 wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
matthew68 wrote:
themaze wrote:
steve1873 wrote:My understanding is that whilst you are still technically allowed to take 20 mins of MR at end of duty, i.e. sign out 20 mins before contracted finishing time, returning to the office and thus entering the geofence will flag this up as a potential saving for the unit, whether it be you meal relief or not. Added up it will show a potential x amount of hours saving per week per unit. Of course, you can argue the case thereafter when they come to take hours from office, but by then it will possibly be too late. So my advice would be to use all MR either prior to going out on delivery, whilst still within the geofence or split it with 20 mins prior to going out and 20 mins whilst out on delivery/ outwith the geofence on that basis.
What about taking the full 40 mins out on delivery ?
Where do you take your break if you have hct? Also it’s not practical to take breaks in van, as either too hot or too cold plus too close to your partner,surely if we have to take break your employer have to provide a toilet and somewhere to actually sit down in comfort
I agree should we form a UNION that agrees with us ?
Most members usually agree with cwu.
True.
And look where we are. :hmmmm
Bye
luddite
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Post by luddite »

So a rural delivery driver can have his or her full 40 minute break out on the round? Yes?
Chris413
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Post by Chris413 »

All this meal relief stuff is bullcrap. What am I supposed to do sit on a bloody curb in the sun? And! Don't say go back to your van I don't bloody get one.
Navalron
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Post by Navalron »

themaze wrote:I think it's got something to do with the pda actuals , we should be taking 20 minutes before you leave as the PDA`s dont count the 40 minutes outdoors apparently.
To even be told that is sad or a wind up. If true then whoever spent millions developing the pda should be fired it they didn't know that the majority of staff are entitled to 40 mins m/r. But they would or will be promoted up the ladder to earn more money causing chaos along the way. :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh surely this is a noise up, lol :left: :left:
Phantom
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Post by Phantom »

Chris413 wrote:All this meal relief stuff is bullcrap. What am I supposed to do sit on a bloody curb in the sun? And! Don't say go back to your van I don't bloody get one.
Then you go back to the office, all our HCT's do.
CUT OFF!!!
Chris413
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Post by Chris413 »

Phantom wrote:
Chris413 wrote:All this meal relief stuff is bullcrap. What am I supposed to do sit on a bloody curb in the sun? And! Don't say go back to your van I don't bloody get one.
Then you go back to the office, all our HCT's do.
By the time i'm ready for break I am at my furthest point from the DO, so I walk 15 minutes back in the heat, to then walk back to the same point 15 in the heat, pushing a trolley both times? Your having a bloody laugh. Not all rounds are that bloody simple.
DB1100
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Post by DB1100 »

So when does a part timer have their break?,our last mail come's in at 0800 and I don't start till 0830,I'm entitled to 30 min break,my duty (shared van) has been timed at 6hr 30 when it's busy,thats just the outdoor element
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