On delivery and toilet breaks!

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 09 Jun 2018, 16:39

aiden01 wrote:
Its like buses you wait an hour for one then three come at same time.

That doesn't happen any more.
The controllers either hold buses at stops or terminate them early to ensure a smoother flow.

Post by **aiden01** » 09 Jun 2018, 16:41

clashcityrocker wrote:
aiden01 wrote:
Its like buses you wait an hour for one then three come at same time.
That doesn't happen any more.
The controllers either hold buses at stops or terminate them early to ensure a smoother flow.

Not where i live lol

Jpro747 · Post by **Jpro747** » 10 Jun 2018, 08:38

RM standard issue nappies coming to an office near you!

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 10 Jun 2018, 09:03

POSTMAN wrote:and the union says... was this the rep?

You should have toilet stops on your walk log,be it or to come back to the office. you should have toilet stops on your 318, you should have had toilet stops during the revision process, your rep should be on the ball with this, there are a lot of should's in this game and wankey reps and bodged revisions!

Do the walk logs actually get updated in DOs (do all walks even have a walk log)?

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 10 Jun 2018, 09:24

SpacePhoenix wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:and the union says... was this the rep?

You should have toilet stops on your walk log,be it or to come back to the office. you should have toilet stops on your 318, you should have had toilet stops during the revision process, your rep should be on the ball with this, there are a lot of should's in this game and wankey reps and bodged revisions!
Do the walk logs actually get updated in DOs (do all walks even have a walk log)?

Yes they are meant to be updated with info such as problem dogs and house name changes etc. Certainly the computer side of this gets updated although I'm not sure on the red file walk logs on the actual frames. RM appears to want to put this and other info on the PDAs. Regarding toilet stops I think it's likely only toilets accessible by the public are listed on walk logs. I think we have two public toilets on two separate walks and one of those is 50 yards from the delivery office. No one has mentioned women posties for which it would be a real problem. We don't currently have any women posties in our office.

Xr4 · Post by **Xr4** » 10 Jun 2018, 15:00

SpacePhoenix wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:and the union says... was this the rep?

You should have toilet stops on your walk log,be it or to come back to the office. you should have toilet stops on your 318, you should have had toilet stops during the revision process, your rep should be on the ball with this, there are a lot of should's in this game and wankey reps and bodged revisions!
Do the walk logs actually get updated in DOs (do all walks even have a walk log)?

I was sent to one office and the walk log was still for bikes!

DGH · Post by **DGH** » 10 Jun 2018, 16:03

I can think of at least two walks in our area that are trolley jobs involving just new housing estates. There are no shops or pubs on the route, and none on the way back and the office is a good half hour round trip from each. There are not really any bushy areas on either which are not overlooked by houses although on one you could walk across twenty yards of grass, jump a stream, fight through undergrowth into a field and then be concealed.

One of them does have a cut through to near on old people's home, which is about 5 minutes off route. But you'd have to know it was there and hope a member of staff as willing to let you in.

Other than pissing in someone's garden or in the street, the only alternative would be to knock on a door - and it's not an area where lots of people are home.

Even if in a van job, if you're not the driver and twenty minutes into a forty-minute loop you think, you need a piss, it could easily be forty minutes to find your driver, get back to the van and drive to somewhere with a toilet.

It's even more laughable when Royal Mail are telling you to stay well hydrated because it's hot . . . if you're actually staying well hydrated, you'll probably need to piss at least twice while out on delivery (if not, you're not actually staying well hydrated).

Creditshampoo · Post by **Creditshampoo** » 10 Jun 2018, 21:41

number one wrote:
aiden01 wrote:
number one wrote:
aiden01 wrote:
number one wrote:
bogues2009 wrote:We had 2 incidents recently in our DO where p/t colleagues had an ‘accident’ due to being on new duty/not knowing the area and how long will it take to deliver etc..they were very embarrassed and worried that our DOM will find out and mention it during brief as he likes to embarrass people in front of everybody! There are no toilet facilities mentioned in log books and the Union says we are still ‘kind of’ public company and have a ‘historic’ right to use toilet facilities of pubs, shops, businesses etc. Where do we stand? Is it a policy which deals with it? Can we insist on using toilets only in our DO and therefore insist on coming back every time during delivery? Are we insured when using toilets in customers houses etc? I know it is easy when you have your own duty and know where you go when you need it but for new starters it is stressful...:(
Is this real? Who are we employing, children? Surely you know when you need the loo and do what’s necessary so you don’t have an “accident”. Just go and find a toilet!!
So what do you do if you cant find a toilet anywhere.
Onece you fail to find any Doctors, hospitals, pubs, cafes, fast food restaurants or business premises then go back to the office. Certainly don’t pee yourself. If all else fails then a tree.
And face a fine for urinating in public.
The chance of being caught is ziltch. Are you telling me you would rather pee yourself than take the risk of a police officer going past at the exact same time as you’re doing it? Also you don’t do it in full view of everybody!

many postman have been done for this. so the chance of it happening isnt as low as you think

Post by **blue1873** » 11 Jun 2018, 00:45

Jpro747 wrote:RM standard issue nappies coming to an office near you!

Nah , think the nappies would be too costly for RM, their more likely to go for fitting
all staff with catheters with the dodgiest character

in the office doing the fitting ,
staff would clean the catheter at home saving RM a fortune....

"jobs a good un"

bobsworth · Post by **bobsworth** » 11 Jun 2018, 08:17

If there are no facilities or secluded spots on the route why not use one of those portable urinals and relieve yourself in the van? Or is there a rule against that...?

peshwaarinaan · Post by **peshwaarinaan** » 11 Jun 2018, 15:45

When I started I was put on a residential duty with no potential toilet stops whatsoever.

I asked my Lino what I was supposed to do and he told me to knock on someone's door. Seriously? In this day and age????

This is a real problem that RM need to address!!!

DGH · Post by **DGH** » 11 Jun 2018, 17:38

bobsworth wrote:If there are no facilities or secluded spots on the route why not use one of those portable urinals and relieve yourself in the van? Or is there a rule against that...?

What if you don't have a van?

Or indeed a portable urinal.

meercat · Post by **meercat** » 11 Jun 2018, 18:12

I heard about a postie being sacked for knocking on a door to use a toilet so be careful. He said something inappropriate to the householder which is not on but he obviously thought it was banter. Complaint - sacked.

Tell the new guy to return to the office every day for a toilet break. They will soon sort something out, he/she is 100% safe doing so.

peshwaarinaan · Post by **peshwaarinaan** » 11 Jun 2018, 18:45

DGH wrote:
bobsworth wrote:If there are no facilities or secluded spots on the route why not use one of those portable urinals and relieve yourself in the van? Or is there a rule against that...?
What if you don't have a van?

Or indeed a portable urinal.

What if you're female!!!!!

LaggyBand · Post by **LaggyBand** » 11 Jun 2018, 19:13

Xr4 wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:and the union says... was this the rep?

You should have toilet stops on your walk log,be it or to come back to the office. you should have toilet stops on your 318, you should have had toilet stops during the revision process, your rep should be on the ball with this, there are a lot of should's in this game and wankey reps and bodged revisions!
Do the walk logs actually get updated in DOs (do all walks even have a walk log)?
I was sent to one office and the walk log was still for bikes!

Still on bikes here with no walk logs so that would be an update for us.