Polling Cards Payments

cpsteve · Post by **cpsteve** » 05 Apr 2018, 20:25

exetererica wrote:
number one wrote: • There should be no extended delivery overtime paid for delivery of poll cards
^Incredulous^

So, If you have a big duty where you book overtime every day, you won't get paid overtime on the one day you so happen to have have polling cards?

It takes time to count and prep and deliver them so you can not expect to get paid both ways. The bigger the walk the more you get happy days.

Post by **rambo1** » 05 Apr 2018, 20:49

cpsteve wrote:
exetererica wrote:
number one wrote: • There should be no extended delivery overtime paid for delivery of poll cards
^Incredulous^

So, If you have a big duty where you book overtime every day, you won't get paid overtime on the one day you so happen to have have polling cards?
It takes time to count and prep and deliver them so you can not expect to get paid both ways. The bigger the walk the more you get happy days.

Look, if you think you'd have gone over by an hr and a half without the polling cards, then it's ok to book that hr and a half, but if you think counting, preping and delivering them will make you another hr late, then you can't book ot for that extra hr. Hope that makes sense.

nickbsmooth · Post by **nickbsmooth** » 05 Apr 2018, 20:58

Royal Mail appear to pay different amounts for these poll cards depending on region.

laudrup11 · Post by **laudrup11** » 07 Apr 2018, 18:38

nickbsmooth wrote:Royal Mail appear to pay different amounts for these poll cards depending on region.

From what I remember years ago when we went from 2.5 hour deliveries to 3.5 hour, there was a formula for Election payments based on how many hours you were saving overall.
G postcode - Glasgow - did a postcode wide agreement which resulted in us getting 6p per item.
I know some areas get less, I’m sure I remember Northern Ireland getting more, but the formula was U.K. wide.

The money per item though is so you prep them in your own time, certainly in our office you wouldn’t get away with coming in at 7, spending an hour boxing in poll cards, then starting on your sequenced Mail.

crimson king · Post by **crimson king** » 08 Apr 2018, 14:26

So, I'll be waiting to see if this does appear in my wages next week (it might pay for a couple of ciders!), presuming that's when it would be paid. Can anyone tell me what it will appear as or what it will be labelled as on the wage slip?

number one · Post by **number one** » 08 Apr 2018, 14:32

crimson king wrote:So, I'll be waiting to see if this does appear in my wages next week (it might pay for a couple of ciders!), presuming that's when it would be paid. Can anyone tell me what it will appear as or what it will be labelled as on the wage slip?

Have you told your DOM how many you delivered? If ot then you won’t be getting a bean.

crimson king · Post by **crimson king** » 08 Apr 2018, 14:45

number one wrote:
crimson king wrote:So, I'll be waiting to see if this does appear in my wages next week (it might pay for a couple of ciders!), presuming that's when it would be paid. Can anyone tell me what it will appear as or what it will be labelled as on the wage slip?
Have you told your DOM how many you delivered? If ot then you won’t be getting a bean.

I've got a counted total and left a couple of E-17's with the full timer I was with for those days. He's going to fill them out and sort it apparently. I'll leave it at that, see what happens. Not too worried as it's not exactly a fortune and it's certainly not worth falling out with anyone over. I'm using it as an exercise in experience, I suppose. The main reason I asked in the OP was because I was annoyed nobody said Jack s**t about it apart from the postie who walked behind me and mentioned it. And fair play to him, just wish there were a few more like him looking out for the newbies.

Basically, the next time I'm in this situation I'll be prepared, know what's what and how to get it. I just wanted to know how it appears on the pay slip so I know if it gets done or not this time.

number one · Post by **number one** » 08 Apr 2018, 15:22

I think it usually says “poll payment” or “election material payment”

crimson king · Post by **crimson king** » 08 Apr 2018, 15:45

number one wrote:I think it usually says “poll payment” or “election material payment”

Thanks, buddy

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 08 Apr 2018, 23:04

I saw one poll card come through redirected the other day. It came through as DSA mail and was franked by a company I haven't seen before with the usual 'delivered by RM' message in the top right corner. So looks like what the union told us was correct and we are no longer going to get paid extra for delivering election materials from now on.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 08 Apr 2018, 23:17

ELECTION MATERIAL:EXTENDED DELIVERY OVERTIME ISSUE:AND MORE:UPDATE:GE JUNE 8 2017

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 09 Apr 2018, 22:30

All that info 'Postman' has linked is out of date. Some of it is from 15 years ago!! The agreement that some of us unfortunately voted yes for has probably stopped the election payments.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 09 Apr 2018, 22:37

Celgar wrote:All that info 'Postman' has linked is out of date. Some of it is from 15 years ago!! The agreement that some of us unfortunately voted yes for has probably stopped the election payments.

What I posted holds the field for now, was there anything in the new agreement about election payments?

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 09 Apr 2018, 22:46

I did read the whole of the agreement and I don't remember seeing anything about election material payments either way. The union have told our office the system has changed and there won't be any election payments. As mentioned before it looks like poll cards are coming via DSA which means 50% of the revenue goes straight to the DSA contracting company. Posties don't usually get any additional money from DSA mail so its another sign that election material payments are a goner.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 09 Apr 2018, 23:36

Celgar wrote:I did read the whole of the agreement and I don't remember seeing anything about election material payments either way. The union have told our office the system has changed and there won't be any election payments. As mentioned before it looks like poll cards are coming via DSA which means 50% of the revenue goes straight to the DSA contracting company. Posties don't usually get any additional money from DSA mail so its another sign that election material payments are a goner.

Please re read the tread, there is also a link in there in bold red regarding DSA, which we do get paid for, nothing has changed!
The title of the thread was updated for the GE in June 2017, nothing...has...changed.