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ROUTLEDGE TODAY

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lovejoy
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ROUTLEDGE TODAY

Post by lovejoy »

Reds letter daze for Hutton
Paul Routledge 26/10/2007
IfI wore a hat, I would take it off to the postal workers whose long campaign for pay and jobs is about to end.

For now.

The 130,000 members of the Communications Workers' Union have fought with discipline, loyalty and nerve.

For nigh on six months, they have taken industrial action that cost them dear, but also brought them great credit.

The posties are now voting on a pay package improved out of all recognition from the 2.5 per cent originally offered.

There is never any guarantee of success if you take industrial action. Only a guarantee of failure if you don't. Neither Royal Mail nor the government comes out of this dispute well.

Saddam Crozier, the million-pound-a-year chief executive (perhaps that should read "Adam"), and his part-time chairman Allan Leighton, the failed football club chief, tried to crush the CWU. They failed.

They were aided and abetted by Labour ministers - chiefly Business Secretary John Hutton - who wanted to cosy up to big business by backing the bosses.

Hutton the Mutton says the settlement will be good for the business and for consumers. I hope so.

But why was the minister silent on the value of this deal to the men and women who bring us our mail? He could have given them a few words of praise, but chose not to do so.

Hutton is the only member of the Cabinet who believes that Tony Blair is still the Prime Minister. That's what his actions tell us, at any rate.
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Post by Stormproof »

:funneh Saddam Crozier :left: :Applause
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets


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Post by L Tommo »

This ROUTLELEDGE BLOKE..... :hmmmm


Well i know he has been the ONLY jurno to back us in some way but he now speaks so DOWN AND AS THE FIGHT IS OVER N FINISHED???

WHY WHEN ITS NOT BY A LONG CHALK......


OUT :hmmmm :hmmmm :hmmmm :hmmmm :hmmmm :hmmmm :hmmmm :hmmmm :hmmmm :hmmmm
L TOMMO.... ILLEGITIMIS NON CARBORUNDUM........

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Post by BELIAL »

And all the pieces come together. Govt.;management ; union leaders and mainstream media. An object lesson in how to control 130,000 angry workers.
End result = worse pay and conditions but you did ever so well. Never mind better luck next time , oh sorry no next time cos your unions withered
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Post by Lounge Lizard »

k66yla wrote::funneh Saddam Crozier :left: :Applause
Some might consider that an insult to the leader who brought some stability for a quarter of a century to a middle eastern country until it was illegally invaded by a brutal dictator and his poodle.
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We would watch this on the plasmas !-no failures there

Post by norbet colon »

k66yla wrote::funneh Saddam Crozier :left: :Applause
Pity Crozier wasn't put on a early 1c shift despatch through a trap door with a nice long single drop like Saddam Hussain , would have done us all a favour !
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Post by antcpfc »

Lounge Lizard wrote:
k66yla wrote::funneh Saddam Crozier :left: :Applause
Some might consider that an insult to the leader who brought some stability for a quarter of a century to a middle eastern country until it was illegally invaded by a brutal dictator and his poodle.
Have you seen the stability given to the women and children gassed in northern iraq.
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Post by dvbuk55 »

It's time the stupid prat either retired or gave up the bottle. He hasn't the faintest idea of what he is talking about. His original article was wide of the mark and this is condescending crap. I think I'll start buying the Sun, you know you are buying crap from the outset.
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Post by Lounge Lizard »

antcpfc wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
k66yla wrote::funneh Saddam Crozier :left: :Applause
Some might consider that an insult to the leader who brought some stability for a quarter of a century to a middle eastern country until it was illegally invaded by a brutal dictator and his poodle.
Have you seen the stability given to the women and children gassed in northern iraq.
Not personally, but I have recently spoken to Iraquis visiting the UK and the situation out there is nothing like many Daily Mail readers might believe, from children living on the streets to lack of basic services many things out there are now worse than they've been for decades, and as for how the US troops treat the local population there can have been few worse attrocities in the world in recent years. .
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Post by POSTMAN »

Lounge Lizard wrote:
antcpfc wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
k66yla wrote::funneh Saddam Crozier :left: :Applause
Some might consider that an insult to the leader who brought some stability for a quarter of a century to a middle eastern country until it was illegally invaded by a brutal dictator and his poodle.
Have you seen the stability given to the women and children gassed in northern iraq.
Not personally, but I have recently spoken to Iraquis visiting the UK and the situation out there is nothing like many Daily Mail readers might believe, from children living on the streets to lack of basic services many things out there are now worse than they've been for decades, and as for how the US troops treat the local population there can have been few worse attrocities in the world in recent years. .
Ok we'll move on now,these things usually end up in a row.
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Post by Stormproof »

Did'nt mean to make things awkward on this post, I just thought it was quite a funny play on words. Funny how people take things out of context. :neutral:
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets


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Post by DirtyHarry »

dvbuk55 wrote:It's time the stupid prat either retired or gave up the bottle. He hasn't the faintest idea of what he is talking about. His original article was wide of the mark and this is condescending crap. I think I'll start buying the Sun, you know you are buying crap from the outset.
Nah, don't do that, mate. Give your 20p a day to charity, make sure it goes to a worthy cause. Mine goes to Great Ormond Street Children's
Hospital, and not into the pocket of a tycoon who regards me, and my class, as scum. :cool
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Post by Daniel Dunglas Home »

I propose a maximum ratio of 8:1 on pay ie highest paid in industry/business 8 x national average wage. Yeah and pigs might f*ckin fly but i still find it hard to believe we dont have enough decent, talented people to run industry with a responsible sense of proportions instead of the grabbing, avarice bunch of scumbags gorging themselves with huge salaries fat bonuses and bloated pension pots, some of them on dubious performance at that.
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Post by strangler »

antcpfc wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
k66yla wrote::funneh Saddam Crozier :left: :Applause
Some might consider that an insult to the leader who brought some stability for a quarter of a century to a middle eastern country until it was illegally invaded by a brutal dictator and his poodle.
Have you seen the stability given to the women and children gassed in northern iraq.
Well said. :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause
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Post by Lounge Lizard »

Daniel Dunglas Home wrote:I propose a maximum ratio of 8:1 on pay ie highest paid in industry/business 8 x national average wage. Yeah and pigs might f*ckin fly but i still find it hard to believe we dont have enough decent, talented people to run industry with a responsible sense of proportions instead of the grabbing, avarice bunch of scumbags gorging themselves with huge salaries fat bonuses and bloated pension pots, some of them on dubious performance at that.
If a minimum wage can be introduced, then in theory a maximum wage can be too, but it will never happen as we will never see a socialist government again. What we need though is the higher rate of income tax much more than 40% - something like 90% after the war which gave the Labour government money to start the National Health Service etc.