How does everyone know there isn't much chance of a better deal. Did this pay deal start with a one off lump sum payment and no percentage added our pay? How can anyone know that we can't get better when royal mail have persistently lied to us?postmangnu wrote:I dont think the deal is so bad and will vote yes. Its being recommended by most of the top people in the union after all. Certainly I cant afford to lose any more money when there isnt much chance of a better deal even after more strikes
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Biggins
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Remember, the way you do you job will affect colleagues for years to come - if you cut corners to do it quick, they will be expected to as well....and then RM will add extra work to fill the gaps.
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DirtyHarry
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I hope when we battle to save our pensions, and I'm sure we'll have to, you'll show a little more bottle than that.postmangnu wrote:I dont think the deal is so bad and will vote yes. Its being recommended by most of the top people in the union after all. Certainly I cant afford to lose any more money when there isnt much chance of a better deal even after more strikes
Imagine the scenario for a moment, when we strike over our pensions we'll stand to lose hundreds of pounds in lost earnings, but so as we don't lose
tens of thousands of pounds when we need it most, in retirement.
The "I can't afford to strike" whine, will come back at you with a resounding whack on that one, mate.
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jmlr1971
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BELIAL
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Oh I can't be bothered explaining again , your a nark or terminally stupid either way no point talkingpostmangnu wrote:I dont think the deal is so bad and will vote yes. Its being recommended by most of the top people in the union after all. Certainly I cant afford to lose any more money when there isnt much chance of a better deal even after more strikes
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rebel
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What the hell did we strike for and lose virtually 2 weeks wages. What planet are the nec on to recommend this deal? We've virtually lost on every score!
Yeah I know it's effectivily gotta be ratified by members - but the shires will go along with it. Then you'll hear the bleats about "Christmas is coming..."" - That's when we are strong for God's sake!!
The NEC have shafted us if they recommend us to accept this.
Yeah I know it's effectivily gotta be ratified by members - but the shires will go along with it. Then you'll hear the bleats about "Christmas is coming..."" - That's when we are strong for God's sake!!
The NEC have shafted us if they recommend us to accept this.
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South East Postie
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hoofer
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South East Postie wrote:its gutting that it will be a no vote, im fairly sure of that, but it will be rigged and magically a yes vote will appear.
out of his arse from being sharfted by another vote we once had when every man
and his dog wanted a NO! VOTE but as if by magic
Mmmm Horse Sh*t
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swerve
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HootyMacBoob
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IWW Fellow Worker
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A bit like that time in 1981 when we had a vote on not working on Saturdays or continuing to work on Saturdays, but with a substantial pay rise. Everyone I ever met for years after voted to have Saturdays off, but the vote was in favour of keeping them. The 'substantial pay rise' never materialised, but I suppose everyone realises that.South East Postie wrote:its gutting that it will be a no vote, im fairly sure of that, but it will be rigged and magically a yes vote will appear.
The Industrial Workers of the World. The union whose members never scab!
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."
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rebel
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As Swerve says -do the job properly!!! Shaft them before they shaft us.For years they've relied on goodwill and our determination to get the job done but also to make time. This morning in our office we had extra sorters on overnight but still nobody cleared-in until 6am. You could see the shock and panic in their faces. Therefore they couldn't really put out any more work as they knew it would all be coming back. 9 walks didn't go out as it was. Just get used to finishing 2pm (or whatever your time is) - don't give them a minute.