office reps ?

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 27 Jun 2017, 17:25

jetblack wrote:
Then we'd likely have no reps - how democratic is that ?

Why would we have no reps?

jetblack · Post by **jetblack** » 27 Jun 2017, 17:35

clashcityrocker wrote:
jetblack wrote:
Then we'd likely have no reps - how democratic is that ?
Why would we have no reps?

Where I work no-one wants to be the rep - so its fallen to me.

You say we need a suitability test - problematic and off putting.
You say also there should be a 50% mandate - TBH we've now got a national governement in power with only 42% of the vote - and only 70% turned out. So in real terms they got 29% of all voters.
And you think a man/woman volunteering for trouble should need 50% ?

We'd have no reps.

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 27 Jun 2017, 18:58

jetblack wrote:
Where I work no-one wants to be the rep - so its fallen to me.

You make it sound like it is a hardship for you.
If you don't want to do it, then don't. The area rep assumes responsibility for the office.
What do you think happens in offices with no reps?

Yes a suitability test would be difficult .....but so what. Not forever by still waters .....
There was a situation a few years back where a BNP organiser was the rep. Acceptable?

If there is only one candidate s/he should be asked to stand against a cuddly toy and not simply assume the role.
If they cannot get more votes than a cuddly toy, what right do they have to represent the workforce?
Elected unopposed is undemocratic. And quite frankly embarrassing in an organisation that claims to be democratic.

jetblack · Post by **jetblack** » 27 Jun 2017, 20:11

clashcityrocker wrote:
jetblack wrote:
Where I work no-one wants to be the rep - so its fallen to me.

You make it sound like it is a hardship for you.
If you don't want to do it, then don't. The area rep assumes responsibility for the office.

Well, I'd prefer to go fishing if thats what you mean. But as I see it, my doing it is a form of participatory democracy.
What if no-one wants to be area rep ?

Whats needed is more people to put their heads above the parapet as TBT put it - not having to jump through hoops.

clashcityrocker wrote:If there is only one candidate s/he should be asked to stand against a cuddly toy

You've kind of made my point for me there clash.

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 28 Jun 2017, 05:38

But as I see it, my doing it is a form of participatory democracy.

democracy
dɪˈmɒkrəsi/
noun
noun: democracy
a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.
"a system of parliamentary democracy"
synonyms:
representative government, elective government, constitutional government, popular government; More
self-government, government by the people, autonomy;
republic, commonwealth
antonyms:
tyranny, dictatorship
a state governed under a system of democracy.
plural noun: democracies
"a multiparty democracy"
control of an organization or group by the majority of its members.
"the intended extension of industrial democracy"

There is a definition of democracy.
How is elected unopposed anything to do with democracy?