who opted all postal addresses in the d2d scheme?

SierraOscarBravo · Post by **SierraOscarBravo** » 15 Apr 2017, 23:03

It's no exaggeration to say that without door to door mailings the business would fold overnight.

rubberbond · Post by **rubberbond** » 16 Apr 2017, 09:03

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
gb93 wrote:
rubberbond wrote:
gb93 wrote:We get paid to deliver mail (d2d included) what's the fuss.
It's called debate.
What a debate on the best way to throw away our jobs
Well, I thought it was partly a debate on the quality of them, and if we could get the business to target them more accurately, perhaps we would make more money, and make the job more secure.

That was my point, I think if they were targeted properly then the rewards would be greater. Bat that is too difficult compared to saturation coverage with huge waste of time and material.

gb93 · Post by **gb93** » 16 Apr 2017, 09:38

It's not RM job to target them it's the company's who pay to get them delivered.
Going down this route could lead to delivery postman deciding they can target them how they please.
Very dangerous territory let's just stick to the way it is.
If you haven't got time to do them all cut off if they stop you getting an earlier than usual finish tough.

postslippete · Post by **postslippete** » 16 Apr 2017, 10:58

I never used to mind delivering the D2Ds. In fact, when we had the old payment for doing D2Ds I often used to deliver other peoples D2Ds for them on a Sunday as it used to be a nice little earner, especially when you had half a dozen lots. And I didn't give a monkeys what the general public thought about them because our customers are actually those who pay us to deliver them.

Now if I have half a dozen lots I will try and ensure that I leave a couple of loops behind instead because we don't actually get paid for them anymore. We only receive a basic delivery supplement instead.

AceMark · Post by **AceMark** » 16 Apr 2017, 11:51

So, did Roger Annies get the sack? Doesn't tell you in the articles.

I think that people should be made aware of the process for unsubscribing to unaddressed Mail on every item. It should be regulated the same way it is in junk email.

However being a postie I can also see the detrimental effect this would have on my wages. £1245.92 a year pro rata's a lot of money to be lost.

deltaforce · Post by **deltaforce** » 16 Apr 2017, 13:38

AceMark wrote:So, did Roger Annies get the sack? Doesn't tell you in the articles.

I think that people should be made aware of the process for unsubscribing to unaddressed Mail on every item. It should be regulated the same way it is in junk email.

However being a postie I can also see the detrimental effect this would have on my wages. £1245.92 a year pro rata's a lot of money to be lost.

I believe he got taken off deliveries and put on indoor work somewhere.

rubberbond · Post by **rubberbond** » 16 Apr 2017, 14:30

gb93 wrote:It's not RM job to target them it's the company's who pay to get them delivered.
Going down this route could lead to delivery postman deciding they can target them how they please.
Very dangerous territory let's just stick to the way it is.

You are quite right,however, what's to stop RM guiding the customer, I don't understand your point about targeting by individual postmen, l personally will deliver what I'm given to deliver, I just think of all the "surplus" items in the office,cluttering the place up and think what a waste of resources, and the items I deliver that are completely misplaced, in terms of target, like the garage door example, yes we all know they get dumped by people in the office,but that is yet another management failure.

masterblaster · Post by **masterblaster** » 17 Apr 2017, 06:35

Chitchat wrote:The revenue from d2ds helps pay our wages. Theres always the odd customer that gets funny about them. But direct them online to opt out if there that bothered. Delivering D2ds helps royal mail deliver packets at a more competative price.

Helps pay moya's wages you mean.
I used to receive £50 doing 3000 D2Ds some weeks, I'd rather they keep the £20 less tax and not do any.

number one · Post by **number one** » 17 Apr 2017, 11:02

masterblaster wrote:
Chitchat wrote:The revenue from d2ds helps pay our wages. Theres always the odd customer that gets funny about them. But direct them online to opt out if there that bothered. Delivering D2ds helps royal mail deliver packets at a more competative price.
Helps pay moya's wages you mean.
I used to receive £50 doing 3000 D2Ds some weeks, I'd rather they keep the £20 less tax and not do any.

On the plus side I get £20 a week now for not delivering any!

Chitchat · Post by **Chitchat** » 17 Apr 2017, 19:22

I just don't get it, we need work to fill our day and justify our wages. I say bring on more d2ds because we are struggling to see growth in any other areas of the business.

gb93 · Post by **gb93** » 18 Apr 2017, 08:37

Chitchat wrote:I just don't get it, we need work to fill our day and justify our wages. I say bring on more d2ds because we are struggling to see growth in any other areas of the business.

You don't get it do you.
Less mail less d2d = getting finished even earlier if the union can't be making sure we all on deliveries finish 2 hours early every day what's the point of having one

Chitchat · Post by **Chitchat** » 18 Apr 2017, 11:03

gb93 wrote:
Chitchat wrote:I just don't get it, we need work to fill our day and justify our wages. I say bring on more d2ds because we are struggling to see growth in any other areas of the business.
You don't get it do you.
Less mail less d2d = getting finished even earlier if the union can't be making sure we all on deliveries finish 2 hours early every day what's the point of having one

Don't think you understand my point,

gb93 · Post by **gb93** » 18 Apr 2017, 12:07

Chitchat wrote:
gb93 wrote:
Chitchat wrote:I just don't get it, we need work to fill our day and justify our wages. I say bring on more d2ds because we are struggling to see growth in any other areas of the business.
You don't get it do you.
Less mail less d2d = getting finished even earlier if the union can't be making sure we all on deliveries finish 2 hours early every day what's the point of having one
Don't think you understand my point,

You don't get it again do you

Pssst. Sarcasm alert.

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 18 Apr 2017, 12:35

gb93 wrote:
Chitchat wrote:I just don't get it, we need work to fill our day and justify our wages. I say bring on more d2ds because we are struggling to see growth in any other areas of the business.
You don't get it do you.
Less mail less d2d = getting finished even earlier if the union can't be making sure we all on deliveries finish 2 hours early every day what's the point of having one

I think you fail to understand the point of a union.
The aim is for the rep and his little coterie of friends to finish early, not the great unwashed sub payers.

Chitchat · Post by **Chitchat** » 18 Apr 2017, 13:06

gb93 wrote:
Chitchat wrote:
gb93 wrote:
Chitchat wrote:I just don't get it, we need work to fill our day and justify our wages. I say bring on more d2ds because we are struggling to see growth in any other areas of the business.
You don't get it do you.
Less mail less d2d = getting finished even earlier if the union can't be making sure we all on deliveries finish 2 hours early every day what's the point of having one
Don't think you understand my point,
You don't get it again do you

Still don't think you understand, but nevermind

Pssst. Sarcasm alert.