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ROYALMAIL PENSION RIPOFF HAS BEGUN

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k979aaa
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Post by k979aaa »

astrobatz wrote:Well as it happens I've been paying in for 10 years and buying extra years on top of that.
If we are to get career average how will that effect the extra years I've been buying?

The whole thing stinks and needs to be rejected. :lfo :cfo
You have answered your own question. :Applause :dance
Wild Cat
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Post by Wild Cat »

astrobatz wrote:I'm thinking it might be better to come out of the Royal Mail pension alltogether and start a private one.
I'd loose whatever bit Royal Mail pays in, but at least I'd have full controll of what I've paid in.
Comments please. :hmmmm
looks like a buy to let flat maybe the only option as at least the lump sum will probably pay off the mortgage when you retire.
k979aaa
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Post by k979aaa »

Wild Cat wrote:
astrobatz wrote:I'm thinking it might be better to come out of the Royal Mail pension alltogether and start a private one.
I'd loose whatever bit Royal Mail pays in, but at least I'd have full controll of what I've paid in.
Comments please. :hmmmm
looks like a buy to let flat maybe the only option as at least the lump sum will probably pay off the mortgage when you retire.
Foget buy to let royalmail will have your service's 24/7 you will not have a home or life outside the workhouse to go to VOTE NO!.
jafferpants
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Post by jafferpants »

astrobatz wrote:Well as it happens I've been paying in for 10 years and buying extra years on top of that.
If we are to get career average how will that effect the extra years I've been buying?

The whole thing stinks and needs to be rejected. :lfo :cfo


dont panic anything you have under the old scheme is completley safe and cant be touched. Those benefits stand no matter what happens going forward.

OSIRIS dont pull out of the rm scheme. even if they introduce the new scheme it's still better than a private pension. That my friend would be the very last resort
stephen500
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Post by stephen500 »

jafferpants wrote:
astrobatz wrote:Well as it happens I've been paying in for 10 years and buying extra years on top of that.
If we are to get career average how will that effect the extra years I've been buying?

The whole thing stinks and needs to be rejected. :lfo :cfo


dont panic anything you have under the old scheme is completley safe and cant be touched.
But by my calculations what i will lose is over £8000 in lump sum payments.
I was due, final salary, £33000 now it would be £24000 approx.
BELIAL
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Post by BELIAL »

Does anyone here honestly believe this is the end of the pension robbery. Whenever you joined ,to plagiarise a little, the pension was the pension; now it's not the pension.

Five years down the road following a mass purge of time served workers with maybe 40,000 less employee contributions ditto employer contributions RM will return and raid our pensions even more savagely. this agreement will be shredded and 'commercial reality' will dictate massive pension cuts.
Who will strike to save your so called guarenteed pension rights, not the new employees with no such benefits, why should they.
You will be left as a powerless rump completely vulnerable to all and any attacks
tenpole tudorsack
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Post by tenpole tudorsack »

BELIAL wrote:Does anyone here honestly believe this is the end of the pension robbery. Whenever you joined ,to plagiarise a little, the pension was the pension; now it's not the pension.

Five years down the road following a mass purge of time served workers with maybe 40,000 less employee contributions ditto employer contributions RM will return and raid our pensions even more savagely. this agreement will be shredded and 'commercial reality' will dictate massive pension cuts.
Who will strike to save your so called guarenteed pension rights, not the new employees with no such benefits, why should they.
You will be left as a powerless rump completely vulnerable to all and any attacks

A GOOD INSIGHT INTO HOW IT'S GOING TO BE MY FRIEND...ISOLATED, VULNERABLE AND PICKED UPON....VOTE "NO" :so there :so there :so there
IT'S LIKE FALLING OFF A CLIFF...JUST SAY "NOoooooooo"
pockets
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Post by pockets »

BELIAL wrote:Does anyone here honestly believe this is the end of the pension robbery. Whenever you joined ,to plagiarise a little, the pension was the pension; now it's not the pension.

Five years down the road following a mass purge of time served workers with maybe 40,000 less employee contributions ditto employer contributions RM will return and raid our pensions even more savagely. this agreement will be shredded and 'commercial reality' will dictate massive pension cuts.
Who will strike to save your so called guarenteed pension rights, not the new employees with no such benefits, why should they.
You will be left as a powerless rump completely vulnerable to all and any attacks
Very very true my friend.Divide and conquer tactics once again from alan & adam.
BELIAL
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Post by BELIAL »

But whats really frightening is our union are fully aware of this probability
jafferpants
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Post by jafferpants »

BELIAL wrote:But whats really frightening is our union are fully aware of this probability
very true but the sad fact is it's always been this way, and every time we make a stand we think this time it will be different (me included) but it never is.
tenpole tudorsack
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Post by tenpole tudorsack »

jafferpants wrote:
BELIAL wrote:But whats really frightening is our union are fully aware of this probability
very true but the sad fact is it's always been this way, and every time we make a stand we think this time it will be different (me included) but it never is.
WHICH IS WHY WE MUST THROW THIS "DEAL" AGAINST THE WALL AND TRAMPLE ALL OVER IT :lfo :cfo :so there :so there
IT'S LIKE FALLING OFF A CLIFF...JUST SAY "NOoooooooo"
blackadder
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Post by blackadder »

our leader, gordon brown has taken from every company pension in the uk. i want him 2 put all the money hes taken from us and say sorry fo taking it. hell i even want plod to do him for theft. sure of 1 thing if a director had nicked the company pension he wouldnt get away scott free. i must have mug written on my forhead
the path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the devils own satanic herd
tenpole tudorsack
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Post by tenpole tudorsack »

blackadder wrote:our leader, gordon brown has taken from every company pension in the uk. i want him 2 put all the money hes taken from us and say sorry fo taking it. hell i even want plod to do him for theft. sure of 1 thing if a director had nicked the company pension he wouldnt get away scott free. i must have mug written on my forhead
AS PYTHON SAID IN BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE....LIFE'S A PIECE OF s**t, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT... :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
IT'S LIKE FALLING OFF A CLIFF...JUST SAY "NOoooooooo"
tenpole tudorsack
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Post by tenpole tudorsack »

BUGGER, IM NOT ALLOWED TO SAY "s**t" :d'oh!
IT'S LIKE FALLING OFF A CLIFF...JUST SAY "NOoooooooo"
tenpole tudorsack
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Post by tenpole tudorsack »

HEY, BUT I CAN GET AWAY WITH BUGGER OR BUGGERING WHICH IS WHAT'S HAPPENING TO US AT THE MOMENT :nana :nana :nana
IT'S LIKE FALLING OFF A CLIFF...JUST SAY "NOoooooooo"