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cybergrinder · Post by **cybergrinder** » 23 May 2007, 16:20

Ok, have you heard the latest one.
In our office over the summer time rural drivers will be instructed to take 1/5 of a walk and deliver it!!!!
more doom and gloom!!!!!!!

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 23 May 2007, 16:22

Apparently this is one of the strings added to the paltry pay rise.

cybergrinder · Post by **cybergrinder** » 23 May 2007, 16:26

Well i aint happy. i am already on the road for 4 and half hours without having to deliver more!!!!!!

ulster postie · Post by **ulster postie** » 23 May 2007, 18:51

SAME OVER HERE MATE BUT IF YOU THINK THE RUAL DUTIES WILL REVERT TO THEIR NORMAL ROUNDS AFTER THE SUMMER THINK AGAIN IE THE SCREWS WILL SAY IF YOU CAN DO IT OVER THE SUMMER YOU CAN DO IT THE REST OF THE YEAR VOTE YES TO STRIKE ACTION

tomangoe · Post by **tomangoe** » 23 May 2007, 19:06

At Derby the DOM has announced 6 walks into 5 over summer by Executive action and the CWU are having a local ballot over this.Bet you once it comes in it will be the norm with no overtime walks just the old "you can absorb it".We also have the situation of diminishing Postmen and increasing managers.Our division covering some 40 postmen and women has 3 managers! None of them know what they're doing and each contradicts the other-you can't get a decision on anything especially Annual leave.If we don't do something soon there'll be more managers than Postmen.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 23 May 2007, 19:48

Ladies and gentlemen,simple GET ON THE VANS

cybergrinder · Post by **cybergrinder** » 23 May 2007, 19:49

thats why the business is in such a mess. You never see the managers taking on extra. Plus you never a manager making mistakes!!!!!! it is always our fault. We have four managers in our place and all they are good at is making tea!!!!!

Bloke7 · Post by **Bloke7** » 23 May 2007, 19:54

I've said it in the past and I'll say it again; all we need to do with this proposal for extra work is to do our jobs properly as the front page of this site says.
Appendix 3 of the Conduct Code will protect you in all cases if you want to work to your time. They're making us work as if we're in a factory now, but you wouldn't bring your own machine to the factory would you? Do your 318 to the letter, you'll have done your job and let RM do theirs for once!

They need to provide the infrastructure for you to do your jobs; that's it! No more job and finish anymore, now it's just job :)

cybergrinder · Post by **cybergrinder** » 23 May 2007, 20:55

what is appendix 3. I have never seen this conduct code. I get threatened with it all the time.

Bloke7 · Post by **Bloke7** » 23 May 2007, 21:04

Speak to your rep :)

But the basic premise is one of 2 ways of "cutting off on delivery" (which in both cases means, working to your time)

Appendix 3
SAFEGUARDING CUSTOMERS' MAIL AGREED NATIONAL GUIDELINES

3 DELIVERY
3.1 PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT
a) Where an employee feels that on completion of preparation he/she may experience difficulty in completing his/her delivery within the authorised time allotted, he/she should approach his/her manager as soon as possible before setting out on delivery. It will be for the manager to discuss any problem and advise the employee what particular action should be taken.
b) When an individual has requested assistance on delivery, but the manager feels that assistance is not required, this decision along with the advice given to the employee will be recorded and associated with the daily traffic volume records. The employee can have access to this record and may ask to see it prior to commencement of his/her delivery. In addition to recording the employee's request, the employee will be instructed to ring his/her local manager prior to a specified time or as soon as possible if full completion of delivery workload within the time allotted proves not to be possible.

3.2 AFTER COMMENCEMENT OF DELIVERY
a) If an individual is prevented from completing their delivery for any reason, it is essential that this is reported immediately either by returning to the office or by telephone (telephone costs will be refunded). A written record will be kept.
b) All employees should be informed of the local authorised arrangements, in writing, preferably in plastic card form if available.

These are the main points regarding deliveries, ask your rep for a copy if you want :)

Fuzzy

Post by **POSTMAN** » 23 May 2007, 21:43

Good call fuzz,we at out place form a line to see the cretin and he tells us to ring in bout an hour before our duty time finishes.
We're on the Vans

billypants · Post by **billypants** » 25 May 2007, 13:21

anyone who's worked for Royal Mail for any length of time will tell you that once a scheme like this is in place it's in for good. It will NOT be taken out again at the end of the summer period. It's just another way of getting us to do more than the agreed 3.5 hour walks.

Remember they believe we are 40% underworked so this is just to counteract that.

DON'T LET THIS IN

USE YOUR VOTE

cockney rebel · Post by **cockney rebel** » 25 May 2007, 13:54

Just recieved a phone call from a friend who works in a delivery unit near swindon, managers have told 8 posties that they are to become leave reserves and will be splitting there deliveries up between the rest of the office!! trying to incite an unofficial strike or what?(i have also been told this is to discredit the area dely rep)
USE YOUR VOTE PEOPLE TELL RM WHAT YOU REALLY THINK OF THERE OFFER- VOTE YES!!

waffler · Post by **waffler** » 27 May 2007, 23:08

We all had to do this in '03 for no docket for 2/3 weeks when the 3.5 town walks came in to get the Â£20 bonus consolidated into our pay. It was totally unacceptable then and after the summer it would be here to stay, enough other things have come in this way.

VOTE YES!
START ON TIME!
TAKE YOUR BREAK!

USE THE VANS!

billypants · Post by **billypants** » 28 May 2007, 17:28

At least in '03 once we'd done the extra work for a few weeks we got a definate Â£20 extra from then on

this time we get to do a damn site more, but now we have to keep on doing it forever just to get a below inflation increase

AND we have to sign away our right for any future increases

What a fantastic deal. . . . . thanks Leighton & Crozier

WAKE UP . . . . . . . . . VOTE YES

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