7 Hours max

Post by **IloveMYredTROLLEY!** » 17 Feb 2016, 16:44

Prep in one hour?

I would use most of this simply throwing in the regular 6+ D2D my walk gets, prepping one column per day, with two on Tuesdays... Before touching a single letter of sequenced or the parcels!

Hitcher · Post by **Hitcher** » 17 Feb 2016, 16:45

Wow you're lucky then, 6 hours for Wed-Fri and 5½ for the rest. No paid meal relief. I don't do it but the mugs who need the money put up with it.

beezet · Post by **beezet** » 17 Feb 2016, 20:57

3hr40 mins Delivery,

we are at least out for 5 hr delivery in our office, i want to work where you are

Surreypostie · Post by **Surreypostie** » 17 Feb 2016, 22:22

Working a day off, management tell you the rate, weekdays, time and a half, saturdays, double time. I don't do much overtime as they don't want to pay it. That's fine as I don't really want to work it.

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 18 Feb 2016, 10:16

motherhubbard wrote:
Bahia Feliz wrote:
motherhubbard wrote:We get 6 hours and you prep it yourself.
So you can prep & deliver it in 6 hours then? What about meal relief?
I hour to prep
30 minutes meal relief
30 minutes redirections tie down etc
10 minutes conveyance
3 hours 40 delivery
10 minutes end of duty tasks.

Something like that.
Some duties are paid as SA so they don't attract the paid meal relief, that gives an extra 30 minutes if the duties are heavier, or further away or whatever.

If you work more than 6 hours, you claim extended.
What I don't understand is why some people think they are entitled to double pay or time and a half (or triple time?)
Is there a list up in your DOs of who is entitled to what? Is it transparent?
Aren't we all equal?

3 hours 40 delivery.....

....those were the days.

motherhubbard · Post by **motherhubbard** » 18 Feb 2016, 14:28

IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:Prep in one hour?

I would use most of this simply throwing in the regular 6+ D2D my walk gets, prepping one column per day, with two on Tuesdays... Before touching a single letter of sequenced or the parcels!

If I was going to cover a duty that I didn't believe was achievable in the given span then I would either say beforehand that it would require extra time due to the volume of D2D (in which case the D2D would be done for me or I would be given more time to do it) or I wouldn't sign for it.
What I wouldn't expect is to be given 7 hours work and to be paid 9 hours for doing it.
I don't see that there is a national agreement that allows you to do that.
And the people that quite happily make up their own agreements are the first to start squealing when managers start doing it.
Either we have a national union or we don't. Utilise all paid work hours I think is the wording in Pay and Mod so that is what I adhere to.

yellowbelly · Post by **yellowbelly** » 18 Feb 2016, 19:38

Surreypostie wrote:Working a day off, management tell you the rate, weekdays, time and a half, saturdays, double time. I don't do much overtime as they don't want to pay it. That's fine as I don't really want to work it.

Sorry - don't understand the bit about overtime rate for weekdays and Sat - is this Surrey just having a laugh or can
local managers pay more than the official national O/T rate? - my O/T rate is just about the same as my
normal hourly working rate.

Can someone explain?

YB

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 18 Feb 2016, 20:15

Officially you only get overtime rates after 39 hours whatever your contract is.

Unofficially a manager will ask you to do the overtime, but if the basic rate is not enough and the manager is desperate enough he will offer an extra hour or half hour, or even more.

As far as I know its not illegal, it is however against current agreements.

Technically I worked a leave day once, but I got it back in toil rather than overtime.

terry2972 · Post by **terry2972** » 18 Feb 2016, 20:20

Yes they are talking about ghost overtime why would anyone do overtime without any incentive to do it? I would imagine without it why would you do it ? In my opinion they should pay a proper overtime rate

Surreypostie · Post by **Surreypostie** » 20 Feb 2016, 14:32

No, I am not having a laugh, it is not ghosting either. Royal Mail want you to work overtime, that is voluntary. If they want me to do it, I tell them how much I want, if the job takes an hour, well its not worth the effort. I don't twist their arms, they don't have to pay it. We used to get premium rates for overtime, I think time and a half weekdays is fair, do an hour, get 90 minutes, double time for giving up your weekends is very fair in my opinion. the job takes 3 hours, I want 6. We live in a capitalist system, the work needs doing and I want a maximum return for my efforts. Lets face it, the fat cats at the top get a damn lot more than us and do sod all.