Should I be worried ?

[whiteb]

Hi.

On the 4th of October, I ordered something from ebay, I paid postage on FIRST CLASS AIRMAIL. It is claimed to have been submitted to the local Post office on the 5th.
Now, I am in Australia and on a good run we can have mail from the UK in three days, usually 1 week.

It is now 17th of October and my Item has not turned up. The seller lives in St. Annes (Lancashire). The seller is apologetic for the delay, but in *HIS* words, "It probably has been caught up in that bloody stupid Retarded Mail strike"

My question is, how long should I continue to be waiting for my Item ? Three weeks, three months ? Not a bad time taken for First class hey ?

Now, I understand there are some thing you need to get off your chest about Working Conditions, Pay, times etc but do you REALLY think the best idea to hold the PUBLIC to ransom ? Without Customers, Royal Mail will find it VERY difficult to stay in business. Where will you be, without an employer when they go out of business, or even worse, push them into being taken over by another company who MIGHT be even worse.

What it comes down to, from MY point of view, is that Royal Mail Execs still go home at the end of the day, with their Fat Cat Wallets, they dont really care, but its the PUBLIC that suffer.

<End rant> So, any idea please as to when I might see my items ?

Given that I have customers of my own, in the USA and China *ALSO* suffering because of this.

[weetrogg]

Its not about holding them to ransom, its about defending are conditions and more importantly our pension, you sound like yet an other idiot who thinks mail makes its own way round the world, why didnt you use the "competition" instead, il tell you why because it would have cost double and would have been delivered by us anyway, im sick of hearing the public moan, they will have cause to moan when we are not providing a cheap reliable service, we be just like germany and holland where it cost 75p to post a letter an the packet rates are a joke. Sorry if i offend you but people need to realise if the government and these :lfo :cfo that are running the company, have there way there will be no postal system left!!!!!! Then people will moan

WE are the union

[Moonshine]

All this proves is how much we are needed, how much of a vital public service it is we provde.

Every time the press and public moan about how much this is costing the economy they never mention the converse which is how much we enable the economy to run smoothly and profitably.

I don't think it's unreasonable to insist on our fair share for the massive service we provide to the British public and for the contribution we make the the British economy, and to insist we are given decent working conditions.

Like the man says, if you don't like it, use someone else.

[whiteb]

Well thank you very much for those two posts, which TOTALLY ignored my question.

How long can I expect to be waiting for my mail delivery ?

3 Weeks, 3 months ?

[IWW Fellow Worker]

You're right mate! Let's all roll over and die and allow a pair of highwaymen to trample all over us during our working lives, and ensure retirement isn't too comfortable by letting them steal our pensions. You're not the only one waiting for things to arrive which have been held up during industrial action, so if you're worried about this, why not contact those responsible on their management site. I'm waiting for tickets from Leeds for a game on Saturday. They might turn up, they might not turn up. What do I say? Good old Leeds CWU! 'Marching on together.......................'

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Well thank you very much for those two posts, which TOTALLY ignored my question.

How long can I expect to be waiting for my mail delivery ?

3 Weeks, 3 months ?

2 Points - you actually expected a civil answer to your question when during the same post you accuse us of holding the public to ransom and then got upset when we did not give you an answer. Not a good place to slag posties off on a forum they use to pass information and communicate with each other. You obviously have not deigned to read other posts that explain why we are striking, the 2 main reasons being a pay rise which makes posties £39 a week worse off and that our Management refused to negotiate, if you had bothered to investigate that, or perhaps even not mentioned it you might have got a decent response. 2nd Point Just to reiterate this web site has nothing to do with Royal Mail except that the majority of us work for them.

To answer your question 5 Oct 07 was the first day of the strike which effectively ended on 10 Oct 07, so that's the best day to starting counting from, there is a big backlog but should be clear over the UK as a whole in about a week so so at a guess. However, if it has to go through Liverpool, and I have no idea if it does, the delay will be longer as they have been on strike longer.

Next time may I suggest you separate a political view from a general question and people may be more willing to help.

[AndyK]

3 Weeks, 3 months ?

it could be longer judging from the attiude :lfo :cfo currently have over your mail/packets.

[piranha]

Hi.

On the 4th of October, I ordered something from ebay, I paid postage on FIRST CLASS AIRMAIL. It is claimed to have been submitted to the local Post office on the 5th.
Now, I am in Australia and on a good run we can have mail from the UK in three days, usually 1 week.

It is now 17th of October and my Item has not turned up. The seller lives in St. Annes (Lancashire). The seller is apologetic for the delay, but in *HIS* words, "It probably has been caught up in that bloody stupid Retarded Mail strike"

My question is, how long should I continue to be waiting for my Item ? Three weeks, three months ? Not a bad time taken for First class hey ?

Now, I understand there are some thing you need to get off your chest about Working Conditions, Pay, times etc but do you REALLY think the best idea to hold the PUBLIC to ransom ? Without Customers, Royal Mail will find it VERY difficult to stay in business. Where will you be, without an employer when they go out of business, or even worse, push them into being taken over by another company who MIGHT be even worse.

What it comes down to, from MY point of view, is that Royal Mail Execs still go home at the end of the day, with their Fat Cat Wallets, they dont really care, but its the PUBLIC that suffer.

<End rant> So, any idea please as to when I might see my items ?

Given that I have customers of my own, in the USA and China *ALSO* suffering because of this.

[POSTMAN]

Well thank you very much for those two posts, which TOTALLY ignored my question.

How long can I expect to be waiting for my mail delivery ?

3 Weeks, 3 months ?

A Month +
While we ARE sorry about what is going on,what we're doing HAS to be done.

[L Tommo]

Well thank you very much for those two posts, which TOTALLY ignored my question.

How long can I expect to be waiting for my mail delivery ?

3 Weeks, 3 months ?

HOW LONGS A PIECE OF STRING????

Well the more the public sit about on there arses and dont back the workers of the last PUBLIC SERVICE then you will pay alot more just for a service people moan about now... WE DO ALL WE CAN TO GET YOU YOUR MAIL... BUT WITH THESE TWO IN CHARGE. :lfo & :cfo THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS....... U BETTER DO THIS As we fight for our livelyhoods and our service...


OUT

[weetrogg]

Well thank you very much for those two posts, which TOTALLY ignored my question. Dont know, as there using polish casuals to clear the backlog your item could be sent to just about anywhere in the country!!! if your lucky you might get it before weekend

How long can I expect to be waiting for my mail delivery ?

3 Weeks, 3 months ?

[moanmoanmoan]

they will have cause to moan when we are not providing a cheap reliable service, we be just like germany and holland where it cost 75p to post a letter an the packet rates are a joke. Sorry if i offend you but people need to realise if the government and these :lfo :cfo that are running the company, have there way there will be no postal system left!!!!!! Then people will moan

WE are the union

I could not agree more in relation to the cost of the post here. In particular I learn from RMC that your competion pay a pitiful amount for the mail YOU deliver.

Surley your overpaid senior management should be lobying to get the prices up as when it comes to door to door mail there is NO true competition. Only mail delivered by RM for lower rates.

I have stated before as a customer that in general a 5p rise in the cost of a stamp to most people is b****r all. A beer is £2.50/pint and fuel is £5/gallon - how many letters do most people send.

As for the volume companies that send out millions of items - if RM put up the price by 5p/letter where else are they going to go? No-one else has got the infastructure

Nuts to cuttings costs - if RM were getting more money to do the same job then hopefully our great service could remain without unneccesary cuts.

These cuts are bad for both RM workers and the general public.

[DirtyHarry]

Hi.

On the 4th of October, I ordered something from ebay, I paid postage on FIRST CLASS AIRMAIL. It is claimed to have been submitted to the local Post office on the 5th.
Now, I am in Australia and on a good run we can have mail from the UK in three days, usually 1 week.

It is now 17th of October and my Item has not turned up. The seller lives in St. Annes (Lancashire). The seller is apologetic for the delay, but in *HIS* words, "It probably has been caught up in that bloody stupid Retarded Mail strike"

My question is, how long should I continue to be waiting for my Item ? Three weeks, three months ? Not a bad time taken for First class hey ?

Now, I understand there are some thing you need to get off your chest about Working Conditions, Pay, times etc but do you REALLY think the best idea to hold the PUBLIC to ransom ? Without Customers, Royal Mail will find it VERY difficult to stay in business. Where will you be, without an employer when they go out of business, or even worse, push them into being taken over by another company who MIGHT be even worse.

What it comes down to, from MY point of view, is that Royal Mail Execs still go home at the end of the day, with their Fat Cat Wallets, they dont really care, but its the PUBLIC that suffer.

<End rant> So, any idea please as to when I might see my items ?

Given that I have customers of my own, in the USA and China *ALSO* suffering because of this.

As long as Royal Mail's owners, the GOVERNMENT, keep employing prats like, LEIGHTON & CROZIER, to run this PUBLIC service into the ground, I'm afraid
you're going to be worried for a very, very, long time to come.

[POSTMAN]

they will have cause to moan when we are not providing a cheap reliable service, we be just like germany and holland where it cost 75p to post a letter an the packet rates are a joke. Sorry if i offend you but people need to realise if the government and these :lfo :cfo that are running the company, have there way there will be no postal system left!!!!!! Then people will moan

WE are the union

I could not agree more in relation to the cost of the post here. In particular I learn from RMC that your competion pay a pitiful amount for the mail YOU deliver.

Surley your overpaid senior management should be lobying to get the prices up as when it comes to door to door mail there is NO true competition. Only mail delivered by RM for lower rates.

I have stated before as a customer that in general a 5p rise in the cost of a stamp to most people is b****r all. A beer is £2.50/pint and fuel is £5/gallon - how many letters do most people send.

As for the volume companies that send out millions of items - if RM put up the price by 5p/letter where else are they going to go? No-one else has got the infastructure

Nuts to cuttings costs - if RM were getting more money to do the same job then hopefully our great service could remain without unneccesary cuts.

These cuts are bad for both RM workers and the general public.

We're not allowed to put prices up,we've just had a stamp rise and we had to suck for that.
Hands are tied on anything we do.
The idea is for all of us to be on a level playing field in a few years time.
EU wanted it,Blair signed up for it then made Postcon who in turn s**t on us.
For the record the competiton want it even cheaper.
So the workers and the public (strikes or not) suffer!

[moanmoanmoan]

I understand that you ar not allowed to put up prices and that your hands are tied in relation to prices.

Surley however the overpaid cretins at the top should be trying to do something to change this rather than simply aiming to reduce the quality of the service -and alienate the workforce.

As for the competition wanting cheaper services - your management should be able to tell them that the prices are going up - if they don't like it then go elsewhere.

The situation RM is in is at the moment unfair.

These low rates to your competition do nothing to help either RM or it's customers.
Let's face it - the dicount rates only applt to large volume mail senders. To most of them a few pence on a stamp in the big scheme of things won't make a lot of difference. My bank uses TNT to deliver it's you have gone over your overdraft limit £30 please letters - they can afford a few pence more.

OK it might reduce the junk mail from some sources - again great for all - less cr*p mail. RM is better of delivering 85% of the volume but getting more revenue.

Which bunch of idiots thought up the current situation?