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So... a heavy D2D has to be taken in 2 days.

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postslippete
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Re: So... a heavy D2D has to be taken in 2 days.

Post by postslippete »

Extra D2Ds to be delivered in just 2 days and still be able to finish on time = impossible


Even though we get paid for delivering D2Ds - you are not technically supposed to claim overtime on D2D items. So are managers expecting us to work over our time delivering these just because we get a standard D2D payment of 25 quid???


Safest way guys and gals, is to work to your time all week and let other staff who like the overtime to go out and deliver a few loops of your delivery on the days when these surplus D2Ds hit.... I wouldn't listen to any manager who says that they will pay you for going over your time as they will say anything just to get you out of the door with them.
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daveyeff
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Re: So... a heavy D2D has to be taken in 2 days.

Post by daveyeff »

they came in ours on Saturday...they ARE tv guides. half of the office has them. the other half doesn't. my duty doesn't have them and on top of that theres no d2ds on the duty either :Very Happy .....can't see why they need to be sent out Thursday and Friday though.
delfranklin1969
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Re: So... a heavy D2D has to be taken in 2 days.

Post by delfranklin1969 »

daveyeff wrote:they came in ours on Saturday...they ARE tv guides. half of the office has them. the other half doesn't. my duty doesn't have them and on top of that theres no d2ds on the duty either :Very Happy .....can't see why they need to be sent out Thursday and Friday though.
If they're TV guides then I suppose they are to start Saturday and possibly the customer insisted they were delivered as close to Saturday as possible. Of course it would have made more sense to just include it as a normal door to door.
Darren Bent
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Re: So... a heavy D2D has to be taken in 2 days.

Post by Darren Bent »

My postman told me it is Virgin TV Guide and I am off this week. Will this be a monthly magazine ? or one off.
meercat
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Re: So... a heavy D2D has to be taken in 2 days.

Post by meercat »

Nah don't think it's the Sun TV guides, these special d2d's for Thurs/Fri are supposed to be 30g and these Sun things are nowhere near it.
P739
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Re: So... a heavy D2D has to be taken in 2 days.

Post by P739 »

arnold cheshire wrote:
stevo302 wrote:Is this nationwide? We've been told next week on /friday we will be taking a D2D weighing 30 grams each. This on top of our normal D2Ds, which must be taken monday-wednesday.

Apparently it's all been agreed. So, cheers for that, Union.
I would also like to thank the union
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meercat
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Re: So... a heavy D2D has to be taken in 2 days.

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For getting us more work?

You have to be flexible these days as a workforce. This is 2015.

If you don't wanna do the extra work grow some balls and tell your manager you ain't doing OT.
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Re: So... a heavy D2D has to be taken in 2 days.

Post by Martin Walsh »

Some need to get real. Royal Mail are a privatised industry with massive competition and a massive wage bill do you really thing when News International comes calling with 5 million items they are going to say no and do you really thing the union has a veto on new work ?

The reality is you get paid wages from the revenue which Royal Mail receive , there is massive competition in the parcel stream , DSA means Royal Mail have lost in the last 10 years 58% of the most profitable part of mails market and left with the most costly part the final delivery. Bespoke D2D is a market which could grow.

The reality is look at the steel workers who lost their jobs today they would not be arguing what work they did if they could keep the steel works open.

The CWU are then consulted once Royal Mail have won the contract and the CWU then put in safeguards like no one is forced to work beyond their time etc.

Remember you are given a contract for a set of hours and overtime is voluntary. No one is forced to work beyond their hours and if they are then there are nationally agreed procedures in place to stop this.

It is really laughable that in the environment this business is in and that a new pay round is due for negotiations that we can somehow think we can reject work ? Or that the CWU have gone and bid for the work !

Comments like thank the CWU clearly are from individuals who believe a union can veto new work when has that ever been the case ? We can demand a price or safeguards but vetoing new work has never been a trade union role.
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Re: So... a heavy D2D has to be taken in 2 days.

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OnAFlyer
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Re: So... a heavy D2D has to be taken in 2 days.

Post by OnAFlyer »

Got all week to take them in our office.
islfor
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Re: So... a heavy D2D has to be taken in 2 days.

Post by islfor »

dingo wrote:Some need to get real. Royal Mail are a privatised industry with massive competition and a massive wage bill do you really thing when News International comes calling with 5 million items they are going to say no and do you really thing the union has a veto on new work ?

The reality is you get paid wages from the revenue which Royal Mail receive , there is massive competition in the parcel stream , DSA means Royal Mail have lost in the last 10 years 58% of the most profitable part of mails market and left with the most costly part the final delivery. Bespoke D2D is a market which could grow.

The reality is look at the steel workers who lost their jobs today they would not be arguing what work they did if they could keep the steel works open.

The CWU are then consulted once Royal Mail have won the contract and the CWU then put in safeguards like no one is forced to work beyond their time etc.

Remember you are given a contract for a set of hours and overtime is voluntary. No one is forced to work beyond their hours and if they are then there are nationally agreed procedures in place to stop this.


:Applause :Applause :Applause

It is really laughable that in the environment this business is in and that a new pay round is due for negotiations that we can somehow think we can reject work ? Or that the CWU have gone and bid for the work !

Comments like thank the CWU clearly are from individuals who believe a union can veto new work when has that ever been the case ? We can demand a price or safeguards but vetoing new work has never been a trade union role.
dave72
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Re: So... a heavy D2D has to be taken in 2 days.

Post by dave72 »

Darren Bent wrote:My postman told me it is Virgin TV Guide and I am off this week. Will this be a monthly magazine ? or one off.
Can't be Virgin Media, the next village over from us who are on the list to get these D2Ds doesn't have their services
ayeitis
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Re: So... a heavy D2D has to be taken in 2 days.

Post by ayeitis »

There is a few regular people which hand mail back in our office but when yours truly tells the manager that i want to complete on my time . The response is that there is nobody to do it now and then this is followed by the maager going in a big strop.
Kings Norton
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Re: So... a heavy D2D has to be taken in 2 days.

Post by Kings Norton »

We have been told to pull out 2nd class and mail sort if the workload is to much, lapsing is cancelled Thursday and Friday mailsort and 2nd class HAS to go out Saturday..
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Re: So... a heavy D2D has to be taken in 2 days.

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Kings Norton wrote:We have been told to pull out 2nd class and mail sort if the workload is to much, lapsing is cancelled Thursday and Friday mailsort and 2nd class HAS to go out Saturday..
Streaming isn't allowed, all mail apart from d2d arrives at the inward MC the day before it's due for delivery and is due for delivery the day it arrives in. Some DOs have local agreements where they don't take out mailsort on a Saturday, which the DOMs probably love as it gives them scope to have lapsing on a Saturday