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What the union got wrong about the bonus...

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Jpro747
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Re: What the union got wrong about the bonus...

Post by Jpro747 »

The question is, is £61 a fair bonus or have we been shafted? Should we have got more?

It's actually quite worrying the amount of people just happily taking the £61 without even questioning it. :neutral:
pants123

Re: What the union got wrong about the bonus...

Post by pants123 »

RobertT wrote:
pants123 wrote: O MY God,,, really... you need to just look at an other business, for instance,john lewis....

You have a lot to learn....
Not exactly a fair comparison in my opinion. John Lewis is owned by its employees who have a say on how it's run. That doesn't apply to RM now does it?
exactly. people make a business successful, the low scum locast, share holders with their millions, dont give a s h it about the future success of a business.. they only think of their OWN wealth... Jesus christ its like teaching retards here..

the rich are human life scum,, only thinking of their wealth and not people... its people that make the world go round,, the, "dickhead" so called elite, abuse this.................. its called CAPITALISM or SOCIALISM, but that is another subject..
Chelseablue
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Re: What the union got wrong about the bonus...

Post by Chelseablue »

Yeah the worlds more corrupt than it's ever been . Kinda get fed up hearing people say oh at least we got sthing , lucky to get anything etc . Exactly the kind of yellow belly , weak , limp as fk attitude that def will not help us in our battles ahead .
OnAFlyer
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Re: What the union got wrong about the bonus...

Post by OnAFlyer »

oldrope wrote:
pants123 wrote:It was a complete joke.... everyone knows it was...

£ 61 is a complete insult to the over worked flogged to a pulp.. by the business..... they can shove the 61 pound.... i have more worth as a human being than this
P i s s take..
It's free money! £61 more than last year, happy days
Free money for MC workers maybe. Ive got another 15% added to my frame as permanent collapsing, and more during summer.

While we get £61 and feel ripped off again, Richard Branson is busy giving his staff a full years paid paternity leave, both male and female. He says 'look after your staff and they'll look after your business' - RM don't seem to realise how disillusioned people are with these schemes that let us down every single time.
max power
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Joined: 13 Sep 2007, 21:30

Re: What the union got wrong about the bonus...

Post by max power »

PHARRY wrote:
pants123 wrote:It was a complete joke.... everyone knows it was...

£ 61 is a complete insult to the over worked flogged to a pulp.. by the business..... they can shove the 61 pound.... i have more worth as a human being than this
P i s s take..
Il have your £61.00 if you don't want it


OI I asked first :wave
aiden01
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Re: What the union got wrong about the bonus...

Post by aiden01 »

pants123 wrote:
RobertT wrote:
pants123 wrote: O MY God,,, really... you need to just look at an other business, for instance,john lewis....

You have a lot to learn....
Not exactly a fair comparison in my opinion. John Lewis is owned by its employees who have a say on how it's run. That doesn't apply to RM now does it?
exactly. people make a business successful, the low scum locast, share holders with their millions, dont give a s h it about the future success of a business.. they only think of their OWN wealth... Jesus christ its like teaching retards here..

the rich are human life scum,, only thinking of their wealth and not :evil/mad people... its people that make the world go round,, the, "dickhead" so called elite, abuse this.................. its called CAPITALISM or SOCIALISM, but that is another subject..
don't like your language " jesus Christ its like teaching retards here" :evil/mad
korky
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Re: What the union got wrong about the bonus...

Post by korky »

the old colleague shares were always a non runner unless you left the company at the right time and got paid them, i always knew they were worth nothing, the only time i've ever agreed with our onion rep!
as for this bonus, other departments of RM get a lot more,
3 hot days toiling in the heat and my £40 odd as already gone on cider/takeaways because i'm too knackered to do anything when i get home
simply_the_best
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Re: What the union got wrong about the bonus...

Post by simply_the_best »

OnAFlyer wrote:
Ive got another 15% added to my frame as permanent collapsing, and more during summer.
.


You still work the same hours though?


Id quite happily sort double my frame and be out less :Very Happy :Very Happy
aiden01
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Re: What the union got wrong about the bonus...

Post by aiden01 »

aiden01 wrote:
pants123 wrote:
RobertT wrote:
pants123 wrote: O MY God,,, really... you need to just look at an other business, for instance,john lewis....

You have a lot to learn....
Not exactly a fair comparison in my opinion. John Lewis is owned by its employees who have a say on how it's run. That doesn't apply to RM now does it?
exactly. people make a business successful, the low scum locast, share holders with their millions, dont give a s h it about the future success of a business.. they only think of their OWN wealth... Jesus christ its like teaching retards here..

the rich are human life scum,, only thinking of their wealth and not :evil/mad people... its people that make the world go round,, the, "dickhead" so called elite, abuse this.................. its called CAPITALISM or SOCIALISM, but that is another subject..
don't like your language " jesus Christ its like teaching retards here" :evil/mad
does anyone agree hate the word retard as it is always used against someone who is disabled :shock:
aiden01
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Re: What the union got wrong about the bonus...

Post by aiden01 »

OnAFlyer wrote:
oldrope wrote:
pants123 wrote:It was a complete joke.... everyone knows it was...

£ 61 is a complete insult to the over worked flogged to a pulp.. by the business..... they can shove the 61 pound.... i have more worth as a human being than this
P i s s take..
It's free money! £61 more than last year, happy days
Free money for MC workers maybe. Ive got another 15% added to my frame as permanent collapsing, and more during summer.

While we get £61 and feel ripped off again, Richard Branson is busy giving his staff a full years paid paternity leave, both male and female. He says 'look after your staff and they'll look after your business' - RM don't seem to realise how disillusioned people are with these schemes that let us down every single time.
how is it free money for mc workers?
Chelseablue
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Re: What the union got wrong about the bonus...

Post by Chelseablue »

Treat your staff well and with respect and they will go the extra bit for you , go the opposite way and we'll just do enough .
RobertT
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: What the union got wrong about the bonus...

Post by RobertT »

pants123 wrote:
RobertT wrote:
pants123 wrote: O MY God,,, really... you need to just look at an other business, for instance,john lewis....

You have a lot to learn....
Not exactly a fair comparison in my opinion. John Lewis is owned by its employees who have a say on how it's run. That doesn't apply to RM now does it?
exactly. people make a business successful, the low scum locast, share holders with their millions, dont give a s h it about the future success of a business.. they only think of their OWN wealth... Jesus christ its like teaching retards here..

the rich are human life scum,, only thinking of their wealth and not people... its people that make the world go round,, the, "dickhead" so called elite, abuse this.................. its called CAPITALISM or SOCIALISM, but that is another subject..
I was referring to the business model! John Lewis is a trust owned by its employees. RM isn’t, never has been and probably never will be. So don’t you think we should concentrate on fact and not ideology?

I agree the £61 isn’t very much, but they didn’t have to give us anything at all – FACT!

Buying shares in any company is an investment in the hope of sharing the success of that business, and lots of people do it! If you have a personal pension tucked away from a previous job perhaps, that will be invested in equities and you will be benefitting from the success of the businesses that it’s invested in. Regardless of the sums of money involved, why would anybody invest in a business and then want that business to fail?

I assume you will be hanging onto your free RM shares rather than cashing them in when the time comes, you wouldn’t want to sell them to some capitalist dickhead in the City of London now would you? Employee ownership is good right?

Or maybe not……
pants123 wrote:if i get shares from this, i'll be flogging them as soon as possible...
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Tman
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Re: What the union got wrong about the bonus...

Post by Tman »

Don't know why you would bother trying to explain it. Anyone who could write something like this---

the rich are human life scum,, only thinking of their wealth and not people... its people that make the world go round,, the, "dickhead" so called elite, abuse this.................. its called CAPITALISM or SOCIALISM, but that is another subject.

clearly has deeper issues which wouldn't be "resolved" by entries on a forum.
pants123

Re: What the union got wrong about the bonus...

Post by pants123 »

Tman wrote:Don't know why you would bother trying to explain it. Anyone who could write something like this---

the rich are human life scum,, only thinking of their wealth and not people... its people that make the world go round,, the, "dickhead" so called elite, abuse this.................. its called CAPITALISM or SOCIALISM, but that is another subject.

clearly has deeper issues which wouldn't be "resolved" by entries on a forum.
I have no issues at all. But im not one for being abused and exploited now by the business, more work.. yes you can do it.. not being paid your overtime even when its been promised you.... year on year increased work loads... perhaps you like to try a 5 hour delivery every week 4 lots of door to door.. go home exhaused every day.......

Share holders. Ive not seen any investment,

Share holders only see money and profit for themselves, so dont try to tell me any different..

Work force becoming smaller. The remaining staff expected to pick up the work.... no improvement in modernising royal mail...

All ive seen since it was privatized is cut backs and more cut backs to the bone...
parforthewalk
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Re: What the union got wrong about the bonus...

Post by parforthewalk »

Work force becoming smaller. The remaining staff expected to pick up the work.... no improvement in modernising royal mail...

We have newer bigger vans to take the extra lapsing et el & new PDA's that will be able to scrutinize your every working minute while out on delivery..

What more investment do you want or could you wish for? :crazy: