UPDATE - OF A SORTS

stamper · Post by **stamper** » 15 Oct 2007, 14:18

there was mention it might not come uot till tuesday or wednesday

Post by **trythat** » 15 Oct 2007, 14:18

Wild Rover wrote:In truth, the rep isn't that interested. I'm surprised he managed to get all of us out, bar 3 or 4 [out 100-odd].

The DoM and rep have apparently discussed repicks for what seems like an enternity now.

It's strange. Seniority is still the practice in our office. The more senior, they get the pick of the best. However, it's the new entrants who are coming in and keeping the f***ing duties there assigned to.

Guys with perhaps 7 - 12 years service are floaters. Only a handful have kept duties.

It really is most annoying, considering, i think, a new start, should be a floater, and then "work their way up".

Anyway...i'm in tomorrow and haven't a clue where i'll be, or what duty i'll be covering. Guess my office introduced flexi-times before Crozier and Leighton thought of the idea...bastards.........

What happens when some one leaves then? that duty should go up for pick, and if some one more senior picks it, then it cascades down the line. The only people here who are reserve's are either new entrants or people who wnat to float from job to job.
What we try and do, is any new entrants stay on the duty for a month or so, and then we keep badgering DOM's to train them up on more duties. We do a 5 week on and 1 week off, so we have to have reserve's.

Bring it up every WTL, and keep moaning at them, we don't have a rep at the moment, but there are quite a few of us, who are a pain in the ass, they just want an easy life.

stressed · Post by **stressed** » 15 Oct 2007, 14:22

The majority in our office are happy with the late starts Mon-Fri but would like it put back an hour on Saturday (like that's going to happen).

stamper · Post by **stamper** » 15 Oct 2007, 14:32

later starts are fine but its the finish thats the problem i'll have to go straight to school to pick the kids up

Post by **mogsyboy** » 15 Oct 2007, 14:33

Sounds to me Wild Rover that you are to useful to them, probably because you know quite a few different deliveries etc. Seen it done at our office where they kept sweet talking a bloke so that he didn't sign for the duty he wanted. As has been stated if your local rep can't help, ask to speak to area rep.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 15 Oct 2007, 14:34

dinho1 wrote:what time are they goin to announce?? i have bbc24 on now and nothing mentioned , apart from liverpool.

I've heard press conference at 4.

fatherchristmas · Post by **fatherchristmas** » 15 Oct 2007, 14:41

our delivery section is in a mail center, but we are already later start so that dont add up.

Wild Rover · Post by **Wild Rover** » 15 Oct 2007, 14:54

Aye, when someone leaves, no repick - a floater will get chucked on that duty eventually.
It happens all the time...believe me, i guestimate over the past 3 years, 10-15 people have left. And still no repick. The amount of floaters is unreal..you have the old timers, new starts and the inbetweens (who seem to get shafted more than the old or new) - f***ing joke.

I dare say i know a fair few deliveries by now. Would be nice to get my own walk though.

Am gonna kick up a stink tomorrow.

Anyway, whens this announcement? 4pm, someone say?!

Time for a brew!!!!!!

Post by **dvbuk55** » 15 Oct 2007, 15:25

Wild Rover wrote:Aye, when someone leaves, no repick - a floater will get chucked on that duty eventually.
It happens all the time...believe me, i guestimate over the past 3 years, 10-15 people have left. And still no repick. The amount of floaters is unreal..you have the old timers, new starts and the inbetweens (who seem to get shafted more than the old or new) - f***ing joke.

I dare say i know a fair few deliveries by now. Would be nice to get my own walk though.

Am gonna kick up a stink tomorrow.

Anyway, whens this announcement? 4pm, someone say?!

Time for a brew!!!!!!

It wouldn't be that the ones who are keeping the duty are part timers is it?

madelin4 · Post by **madelin4** » 15 Oct 2007, 15:27

POSTMAN wrote:
dinho1 wrote:what time are they goin to announce?? i have bbc24 on now and nothing mentioned , apart from liverpool.
I've heard press conference at 4.

So will we know at 4pm 2day what the offer on the table is then??

postie28 · Post by **postie28** » 15 Oct 2007, 15:30

madelin4 wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
dinho1 wrote:what time are they goin to announce?? i have bbc24 on now and nothing mentioned , apart from liverpool.
I've heard press conference at 4.
So will we know at 4pm 2day what the offer on the table is then??

possible. although they reckon talks could carry over 'til tomorrow. so wouldn't hold your breath.

catch · Post by **catch** » 15 Oct 2007, 15:31

probably not going by this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7044362.stm

strangler · Post by **strangler** » 15 Oct 2007, 16:54

Bugger all this waiting for the info on the deal.

Post by **dvbuk55** » 15 Oct 2007, 17:34

strangler wrote:Bugger all this waiting for the info on the deal.

Quite right! They've had the deal since last Friday it is now Monday evening SOOOOOOOOOOOOO what the f*ck is so frightening that they can't tell us? Are they giving us time to get the vaseline from Boots?

LondonUNISON · Post by **LondonUNISON** » 15 Oct 2007, 17:37

I think all this behind the scenes negotiating that union tops get up to is bullshit. All negotiations should be upfront and open and the membership should be able to see the outcomes straight away and be able to send rank and file observers.