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News 24 18:30 update sun 14th October

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Lovin Posties
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News 24 18:30 update sun 14th October

Post by Lovin Posties »

Just heard that at 2pm tomorrow afternoon (15th October) the CWU and Royal Mail will speak about the deal I assume on news 24 and if all agreed further strikes from wednesday will be called off
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SUSPENSION OF PLANNED INDUSTRIAL ACTION SCHEDULED FOR 18.00 HOURS MONDAY 15TH OCTOBER UNTIL 1800 HOURS TUESDAY 16TH OCTOBER AND OF THAT SCHEDULED FOR 03.00 HOURS TUESDAY 16TH OCTOBER UNTIL 03.00 HOURS WEDNESDAY 17TH OCTOBER.



CWU were informed this afternoon that Royal Mail was seeking an injunction in lieu of a full hearing to prevent industrial action taking place next Monday/Tuesday 15/16th October and Tuesday/Wednesday 16/17th October.



At 6.00 p.m. today - Friday 12th October - our lawyers advised the General Secretary that Royal Mail had been successful in obtaining the injunction. The Union was represented by John Hendy QC, together with Binder Bansell, Pattinson Brewer who vigorously defended the action in the Court. Despite this the injunction was granted.



The Court has restrained the Union from calling out its members in Mail Centres and Delivery Offices on Monday 15th. Tuesday 16th and Wednesday 17th October respectively and as a consequence each action consisting of strike action of 24 hour duration will no longer take place. As a consequence you should attend for work and work normally. Details of the injunction will be forwarded to Branches on receipt.



PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS DOES NOT AFFECT FURTHER PLANNED STRIKE ACTION WHICH THE UNION HAS ALREADY SERVED NOTICE OF, WHICH IS UNAFFECTED BY THIS DECISION.



It will be noted that the injunction does not cover Airports and Separate Collection Hubs but because of the small numbers involved it was thought prudent to also withdraw this planned action.


Branches are asked to ensure that all members are made aware of this. This LTB us being sent out electronically to all Branches and Divisional Reps. Divisional Reps, in particular, are asked to ensure that Branches within their areas are made aware of this communication.

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Re: News 24 18:30 update sun 14th October

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Lovin Posties wrote:Just heard that at 2pm tomorrow afternoon (15th October) the CWU and Royal Mail will speak about the deal I assume on news 24 and if all agreed further strikes from wednesday will be called off
Nope you heard that the PEC will get the deal at 2pm on Monday to look at before/if they then give it to us to vote on. :Very Happy
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Post by kinmad4it »

If, as I fear, the deal is basically the same as the last joke royal mule presented to us. Where does that leave us? It would be an obvious indication that they refuse to alter their deal. We've got Brown telling us to accept it and stop moaning. The majority of the national press not giving a toss and the general public having little or no sympathy.
I fear the worst.
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Post by Stormproof »

I think the press were coming round to our cause in the past few days going by some of the articles I read. Where was :lfo the other day? Have him and Dozier fallen out.
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Post by k979aaa »

kinmad4it wrote:If, as I fear, the deal is basically the same as the last joke royal mule presented to us. Where does that leave us? It would be an obvious indication that they refuse to alter their deal. We've got Brown telling us to accept it and stop moaning. The majority of the national press not giving a toss and the general public having little or no sympathy.
I fear the worst.
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Post by kinmad4it »

The way forward was down to us too :sad:
Just have to wait and hope for the best. Surely Billy and Dave wouldn't be stupid enough to agree to something they didn't agree on last time. This not knowing is giving me stress headaches :sad:
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Post by scooby »

well if it is a shite deal and they get it in im looking for a new job.

with the starting time change and other things going on im fed up with it now
we have about 4 of with stress at our place i wonder why.
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Post by stressed »

Our manager has already been implementing the 'work your hours' part of the flexible working s**t.
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Post by L Tommo »

kinmad4it wrote:The way forward was down to us too :sad:
Just have to wait and hope for the best. Surely Billy and Dave wouldn't be stupid enough to agree to something they didn't agree on last time. This not knowing is giving me stress headaches :sad:

Mate.... Billy and dave AINT agreed to anything!!!! WE HAVE TO AGREE Billy n dave just put the deal forward..

DONT worry about the media... Only a veery few have seen it as it really is and reported it as much...

The public can listen to every postie in the land with a voice...

Gordon (moron) Brown can feck off!!! And any other pen pushing back sliding scum sucking parasitical shiney arsed fecking no good w****r can go and boil there heads.... WE THE CWU UNION WILL VOTE..... US.... NOT ANYBODY ELSE...

WE HAVE THE POWER OF DEMOCRATIC VOTING.... SO USE IT WISELY PEOPLE OF THE CWU....


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Post by stephen500 »

Big Daz wrote:

It will be noted that the injunction does not cover Airports and Separate Collection Hubs but because of the small numbers involved it was thought prudent to also withdraw this planned action.


General Secretary: Billy Hayes
But action still appears planned for:
Network - duties, Scheduled Attendance and overtime commencing at or after 12 noon Wednesday 17th October 2007 and before 12 noon Thursday 18th October 2007.
MDECs - duties, Scheduled Attendance and overtime commencing at or after 12 noon Thursday 18th October 2007 and before 12 noon Friday 19th October 2007.


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Not so sure about below?
International/HWDC - duties, Scheduled Attendance and overtime commencing at or after 14.00 Thursday 18th October 2007 and before 14.00 Friday 19th October 2007.


Yours sincerely





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Post by baldrick »

Yeah but if the PEC decides to recommend the proposals this afternoon, all IA will be called off pending the oucome of the membership ballot.

I think this board is going to be quite lively this evening! :lfo :cfo
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Post by stephen500 »

it is suggested by some that the high court injunction was just some thing cobbled together by both the cwu and RM to allow agreement to go to pec without strike action today!
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Post by catch »

stephen500 wrote:it is suggested by some that the high court injunction was just some thing cobbled together by both the cwu and RM to allow agreement to go to pec without strike action today!
Given there were errors in the August notice that messed up strike action for MDECs and airports (I think), you'd think they'd have tightened it up by now.

Certainly it's a gift to Dave Ward and Billy Hayes if the deal is as s**t as everyone seems to think it will be.
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re: Led to believe flexibility will be negotiated locally

Post by F0zziebear »

Rumour has it flexibility will be negotiated locally. To me this has always been a bit of a red herring. Any right minded postie isn't going to come back at 10:30am as some do now and want to take out another round.

Should be interesting to see what happens.

From the pictures the negotiators involved are quite experienced and I reckon RM needed to start from an extreme position and come inwards. Personally (maybe a little biased) the CWU have been shafted. Lets see if the posties agree in enough numbers.

I reckon you guys are getting the way forward 2