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Flexibility in Delivery Offices - Clarification

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Flexibility in Delivery Offices - Clarification

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LTB 125/15 Flexibility in Delivery Offices Clarification



No. 125 /15

Ref: 230.03

Date: 26th February 2015



To: Branches with POSTAL Members



Dear Colleague,



Flexibility in Delivery Offices - Clarification



It has become apparent having attended the Unit Reps Briefings and membership meetings recently that Royal Mail managers are not following national agreements and guidelines etc when it comes to flexibility in Delivery Offices. For ease of reference the words contained in the Integrated Delivery Programme of the Agenda for Growth states the following.



Point of Clarification on 30 mins Flexibility

Both parties re-affirm their commitment to the 30 minute flexibility arrangements within the Pay and Modernisation agreement. The following provides clarification of the agreed approach.



Where necessary, for example when traffic volumes are unexpectedly high or resourcing issues arise, individuals may be asked and may themselves request to vary their duty times by up to 30 minutes on a swings and roundabouts basis. Individual circumstances will be taken into account and total weekly contractual hours will not change. This means that individuals may flex their duty times by up to 30 minutes on any given day and this will be balanced either way over the next 5 working days. However this period can be extended by local agreement. A local record will be kept. Any requirement to change times of attendance or flex will take into account individual's personal obligations and responsibilities.



There is no other agreement in place between Royal Mail and the CWU that overrides or supersedes this statement. To be absolutely clear any hours worked before or after official duty times should attract the appropriate overtime payment, unless there is an arrangement agreed in line with the above.



Where managers continue to insist that working beyond duty time is part of some imaginary flexibility agreement then a disagreement should be put in place to resolve the matter using the IR Framework.



Any enquiries to Bob Gibson's Office, quoting reference 230.03

Email address: hnutley@cwu.org

Yours sincerely





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Just wave a bit of paper about Bob, that should do the trick. :cuppa
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I wonder how long it is going to take Uncle Bob to work out his fellow union members are having the piss taken out of them
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No mention of this being voluntary in the above article.
If you don't wish to flex can your manager impose it on you ?
Some managers seem to think that is the case.
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Toby Tyke wrote:No mention of this being voluntary in the above article.
If you don't wish to flex can your manager impose it on you ?
Some managers seem to think that is the case.
Seems clear to me, it's totally voluntary
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No they can't make you
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fishtank wrote:Just wave a bit of paper about Bob, that should do the trick. :cuppa
We all know what happened last time
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
fishtank wrote:Just wave a bit of paper about Bob, that should do the trick. :cuppa
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Toby Tyke wrote:No mention of this being voluntary in the above article.
If you don't wish to flex can your manager impose it on you ?
Some managers seem to think that is the case.
A colleague was told it would be noted if you refused and could result in disciplinary action if refusal continued. What you got to say about that Bob?
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I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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This means that individuals may flex their duty times by up to 30 minutes on any given day and this will be balanced either way over the next 5 working days.
I thought it was up to 30 minutes either way per week? Or am I reading it wrong that it means 30 mins per day?
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Sir Henry wrote:
This means that individuals may flex their duty times by up to 30 minutes on any given day and this will be balanced either way over the next 5 working days.
I thought it was up to 30 minutes either way per week? Or am I reading it wrong that it means 30 mins per day?
It's changed.It doesn't have to be in the same week.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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POSTMAN wrote: It's changed.It doesn't have to be in the same week.
FFS, that LTB is dated 26th February 2015, and it's changed already ? :roll:
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Pinky 1 wrote:
POSTMAN wrote: It's changed.It doesn't have to be in the same week.
FFS, that LTB is dated 26th February 2015, and it's changed already ? :roll:
No,it's changed from the original agreement...
This means that individuals may flex their duty times by up to 30 minutes on any given day and this will be balanced either way over the next 5 working days.
Original agreement says 'in the same week'.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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