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venger
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Post by venger »

Was;
5:30 am - 2:00 pm Mon - Fri
5:30 am - 11:30 am Sat

Now it's;
5:45 am - 2:15 pm Mon - Fri
6:15 am - 12:15 pm Sat

Hanging around waiting for mail LONGER now than ever before. I'm off on Saturday, so I've no idea what'll happen.
I thought these changes would mean less time waiting for mail to arrive in the lorries not more time sitting around doing f**k all.
Guess thats RM management for you.
green x code man
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doing the job properly

Post by green x code man »

it 4 o clock just got in same again today at watford about 5 people came back and it was the same faces going out in breaks etc etc its a fact watford has folded now and im starting to think im the only mug doing the job properly might as well give up rush round and become part time what a waste of time the last 16 weeks have been
Navy Bob
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Re: doing the job properly

Post by Navy Bob »

green x code man wrote:it 4 o clock just got in same again today at watford about 5 people came back and it was the same faces going out in breaks etc etc its a fact watford has folded now and im starting to think im the only mug doing the job properly might as well give up rush round and become part time what a waste of time the last 16 weeks have been
Yes you are correct it was a waste of time
But....
You were forewarned on many occasions that this time "things would change"
As I have stated before,I admire peoples commitment,however.....I bet it seems a bit lonely in the office now at 15:00,
It does to me :Very Happy
kanuuuuuu
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Post by kanuuuuuu »

i love mail sort wrote:my office is 6.00 - 2.15 but i have been finishing up to 4pm each day, its so late now i see the lollypop school lady helping the kids going home, last week i saw her helping the kids going to school. :so there
why 4pm if youre supposed to be finished at 2.15 ?
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Post by POSTMAN »

kanuuuuuu wrote:
i love mail sort wrote:my office is 6.00 - 2.15 but i have been finishing up to 4pm each day, its so late now i see the lollypop school lady helping the kids going home, last week i saw her helping the kids going to school. :so there
why 4pm if youre supposed to be finished at 2.15 ?
:neutral: Yeah,why?
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
i love mail sort
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Post by i love mail sort »

over time.
manc_daddy
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Joined: 12 Sep 2007, 14:39

is it official ?

Post by manc_daddy »

Now an agreement has been reached between cwu and royal mail are later start times in for good?
manc_daddy
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Joined: 12 Sep 2007, 14:39

Nooo

Post by manc_daddy »

I guess by the amount of replies i got later starts are here for good then ?
what were we striking for in first place ? later starts was the biggest issue for me as i parent of 2 kids and my partner works full time and p/t carer for my dad who has m/s and my old hours 6-2 suited me as i could go care for dad in afternoon and afterwards pick kids up at 3 but now its all f****d up so suppose im gonna have to leave royal mail now as manager says nothing they can do .

Thanks cwu for f**k all .
adr
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Re: Nooo

Post by adr »

manc_daddy wrote:I guess by the amount of replies i got later starts are here for good then ?
what were we striking for in first place ? later starts was the biggest issue for me as i parent of 2 kids and my partner works full time and p/t carer for my dad who has m/s and my old hours 6-2 suited me as i could go care for dad in afternoon and afterwards pick kids up at 3 but now its all f****d up so suppose im gonna have to leave royal mail now as manager says nothing they can do .

Thanks cwu for f**k all .
Ask your rep to go with you and speak to management a few in our office have done and they were accomodated.

I think you will find that Royal Mail are the ones who forced the changes in so stop blaming the union and lets just wait and see what the deal is before slagging them off
manc_daddy
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later starts

Post by manc_daddy »

I already seen my manager with my rep and there solution was to change offices as i live 14 miles from my d.o and to drop my hours from 30 hours to 18 hours a week. only person who has permission to start 2 hours earlier is the union rep .
kwikpost
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Joined: 19 Jan 2007, 16:23

Re: LATER STARTS AND LATER FINISHES

Post by kwikpost »

musicman wrote:THE HOURS WE ARE SUPPOSED TO WORK IN OUR OFFICE ARE.

MON-FRI 6.15 TO 2.45
SAT 6.15 TO 12.15.

IS EVERYBODY ELSE WORKING THESE HOURS
we`re on 6am till 2pm mon to sat. is this 48hr max hrs per week in yet. cause it looks to me like some on here might be going well over those hrs.
Pochahontas
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Re: later starts

Post by Pochahontas »

manc_daddy wrote:I already seen my manager with my rep and there solution was to change offices as i live 14 miles from my d.o and to drop my hours from 30 hours to 18 hours a week. only person who has permission to start 2 hours earlier is the union rep .
May I then suggest you contact Union HQ. If your being forced into less hours this is constructive dismissal. Get your union membership number and log on to the cwu website where a full statement with a contingency plan for people with the same difficulty's as you are facing.

In the mean time, get special leave to finish at the old time photo copy it and make sure you document any loss of pay. You should put in a grievance as in April new regulations with flexible working for people who look after elderly relatives and people who depend on them came into force.


No. 321/2007
Ref: 2.50
Date: 4th April 2007


To: All Branches



Dear Colleague



Flexible Working Improvements, Maternity Rights and Adoption Rights Under The Work And Families Act 2006



Branches were previously advised of the impending changes to the right to apply for flexible working being extended to carers of adults. From 6 April 2007, the Work and Families Act 2006 and, in Northern Ireland, the Work and Families (Northern Ireland) Order 2006 extend the right to request flexible working to include employees who care or are expecting to care for an adult in need of care.


The right to apply is in line with the existing provision for parents of children who meet the criteria. ACAS have produced an advice leaflet and a booklet on the extended rights now available Their website is http://www.acas.org.uk and their advice line is 08457 47 47 47. Also feel free to contact the CWU Equality Department.



Please do not give up, this is policy you shouldn't loose wages over this - if you have to take this to a tribunal so be it. But don't just accept what is being said.
Gob for the job and mouth of the south!!!
ray of sunshine
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Joined: 31 Jul 2007, 22:45

later starts

Post by ray of sunshine »

i put a letter in 2 wks ago stating on saturdays my hubby goes to work at 11am and no one to look to look after my 2 kids under 12 :sad:
The dim's boss says he will come round with me next saturday to proof i will finish before 1pm :funneh
I will do the job properly as i have been doing it all last week! :nana
It still doesnt solve the problem in the long term.
The managerment wont help :lfo
any ideas??? :Applause
see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil
Pochahontas
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Re: later starts

Post by Pochahontas »

ray of sunshine wrote:i put a letter in 2 wks ago stating on saturdays my hubby goes to work at 11am and no one to look to look after my 2 kids under 12 :sad:
The dim's boss says he will come round with me next saturday to proof i will finish before 1pm :funneh
I will do the job properly as i have been doing it all last week! :nana
It still doesnt solve the problem in the long term.
The managerment wont help :lfo
any ideas??? :Applause

You write a letter stating that,

You have no child-minding facility's in place because your current child-minder (husband) is not available you will until arrangements can be made only work till XXXX times

Yours sincerely


Your name


Photo copy it. CC to the branch or union rep in your office.

When you sign in sign out for the time that you will be leaving and make sure the manager knows about it. You are then not claiming money for time not worked. Bounce that ball right back into there court. If you get any come back ask for any response in writing. Photo copy all documents and forward to your Union Rep.
Gob for the job and mouth of the south!!!
ray of sunshine
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Post by ray of sunshine »

16/10/07

Dear Dum/Dummer

I have no child-minding facility's in place because my child-minder (husband) is not available, on Saturday after 11am. I can only work until 10.50am on a Saturday.

Yours sincerely

slave of the trade


I have wrote the above letter, but missed of the names of dim and dimmer.Will hand it into tomorrow and see what happens got a feeling p45 might be coming my way.........!!!!!
:arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil