Rumour of franchising the walks.

[krussel]

This rumour started from a CWU rep who had attended a national meeting.

Personally I hope its not true for many years to come. For myself it would spell the end of my employment with Royal Mail.

[dvbuk55]

So to finish I would advise you all to contact the CWU and let them know that franchising is not acceptable.

Right........or what? All out strike..........well we know that's not going to happen. It's a lost cause as far as the CWU is concerned because they will take the short term view of still being at the table UNTIL membership falls to such a level that they no longer get a seat.

[paulf0203]

So to finish I would advise you all to contact the CWU and let them know that franchising is not acceptable.

Right........or what? All out strike..........well we know that's not going to happen. It's a lost cause as far as the CWU is concerned because they will take the short term view of still being at the table UNTIL membership falls to such a level that they no longer get a seat.

No time for cynicism or pessimism dv it wont achieve nothing, we have got to nip this in the bud if we can.

[fishtank]

No time for cynicism or pessimism dv it wont achieve nothing, we have got to nip this in the bud if we can.

Before you can nip anything in the bud you have to know whether it's true or not.
In my opinion it's one of two things, either Royal Mail are trying to scare the s**t out of the CWU or the CWU are trying to scare the s**t out of its members.
It could of course be a joint message.

[dvbuk55]

So to finish I would advise you all to contact the CWU and let them know that franchising is not acceptable.

Right........or what? All out strike..........well we know that's not going to happen. It's a lost cause as far as the CWU is concerned because they will take the short term view of still being at the table UNTIL membership falls to such a level that they no longer get a seat.

No time for cynicism or pessimism dv it wont achieve nothing, we have got to nip this in the bud if we can.

I'm afraid paul you're weeing in the wind. The CWU are no longer looking after our interests but their own and have been for some considerable time. Even given the mandate to strike the leadership bottled it and no longer have the power to strike. They wanted the right to vote on your share issue now tell me do you seriously think that it was for your benefit or for them to sit at the table again with some sort of proxy power.

[dvbuk55]

No time for cynicism or pessimism dv it wont achieve nothing, we have got to nip this in the bud if we can.

Before you can nip anything in the bud you have to know whether it's true or not.
In my opinion it's one of two things, either Royal Mail are trying to scare the s**t out of the CWU or the CWU are trying to scare the s**t out of its members.
It could of course be a joint message.

I don't think it's going to happen any time soon but I don't doubt that it could well be on RMs agenda and of course by default the CWUs agenda too. It may well be looked at as to how you sell a pig in a poke..........mind they've done it before.

[aposter]

Can possibly see the franchising of offices but doubt they will sell off individual rounds, particularly with the USO

[Patrick301]

i heard this rumour in 1987 when i was on the walks (27 years ago)

[dvbuk55]

Can possibly see the franchising of offices but doubt they will sell off individual rounds, particularly with the USO

Ah yes, the USO...........now how long exactly do you think that'll last? As soon as they can RM will drop it on some pretext or other

[paulf0203]

So to finish I would advise you all to contact the CWU and let them know that franchising is not acceptable.

Right........or what? All out strike..........well we know that's not going to happen. It's a lost cause as far as the CWU is concerned because they will take the short term view of still being at the table UNTIL membership falls to such a level that they no longer get a seat.

No time for cynicism or pessimism dv it wont achieve nothing, we have got to nip this in the bud if we can.

I'm afraid paul you're weeing in the wind. The CWU are no longer looking after our interests but their own and have been for some considerable time. Even given the mandate to strike the leadership bottled it and no longer have the power to strike. They wanted the right to vote on your share issue now tell me do you seriously think that it was for your benefit or for them to sit at the table again with some sort of proxy power.

i've not been here that long so not aware of any history.

[arnold cheshire]

Can someone explain what franchising is and how it will affect workers?

Thanks

nobody can explain how it works ?

[Martin Walsh]

Franchising is not on the agenda at the moment as it is not allowed under the Agenda for Growth Agreement. Royal Mail main plan at the moment is the mail optimisation ( single pass ) and bench merging rather than frame prepping.

That is a massive issue and a game changer. However franchising is not on the agenda at the moment and it is hard to see when it will be again as the business will have to signal to the world that they have to rip up a legally binding agreement less than a year on. The share price would wipe millions off ! It is not going to happen yet !

[Edward Hunter]

wtf is bench merging dingo?

[dvbuk55]

Well I for one feel much better now that dingo has said it's not on the agenda at the moment, so it's not likely in the next 5 weeks but I'd imagine it will be on the table next year despite any agreement. Strange that there wasn't a more strenuous denial really, as though it has been discussed but shelved for the moment.

[dvbuk55]

wtf is bench merging dingo?

At the moment duties are prepared separately on a frame but if you connected frames together and the mail was prepared in sequence then you could have x amount of mail given to postmen according to how many people you have as opposed to a set limit per duty. Just a guess mind but I have heard it suggested before some years ago though.