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Pensions

Post by moanmoanmoan »

Whilst I have a great deal of sympathy for the moving goalposts on pensions for those already enrolled what is wrong with closing the scheme to further members?

Most people in the private sector have to put up with money purchase schemes so why not new members to yours?

RM is loosing money and needs to move into the 21st Century to survive -you guys need to do the same.

I understand the anger over the changes to existing pension contributers T&Cs but other than this I think you are lemmings for striking - essentially you are hammering in the nails of your coffin

At the end of the day if the new T&C's are so bad then why don't you guys go and get another job?

Simple - jobs elsewhere would be paying minimum wage without a pension at all!!!
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Re: Pensions

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moanmoanmoan wrote:Whilst I have a great deal of sympathy for the moving goalposts on pensions for those already enrolled what is wrong with closing the scheme to further members?

Most people in the private sector have to put up with money purchase schemes so why not new members to yours?

RM is loosing money and needs to move into the 21st Century to survive -you guys need to do the same.

I understand the anger over the changes to existing pension contributers T&Cs but other than this I think you are lemmings for striking - essentially you are hammering in the nails of your coffin

At the end of the day if the new T&C's are so bad then why don't you guys go and get another job?

Simple - jobs elsewhere would be paying minimum wage without a pension at all!!!
Sod off you fifth columnist scum.
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Post by moanmoanmoan »

Sorry the insult has gone above my head - could you please explain.

English is preferable
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Re: Pensions

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moanmoanmoan wrote:Whilst I have a great deal of sympathy for the moving goalposts on pensions for those already enrolled what is wrong with closing the scheme to further members?

Most people in the private sector have to put up with money purchase schemes so why not new members to yours?

RM is loosing money and needs to move into the 21st Century to survive -you guys need to do the same.

I understand the anger over the changes to existing pension contributors T&Cs but other than this I think you are lemmings for striking - essentially you are hammering in the nails of your coffin

At the end of the day if the new T&C's are so bad then why don't you guys go and get another job?

Simple - jobs elsewhere would be paying minimum wage without a pension at all!!!
Listen - get an education - "RM is losing money" - I'll bet you're a right little barrack room lawyer -tell me - do you actually have a job? I know you have an opinion misguided though it is you probably think you're right.
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moanmoanmoan wrote:Sorry the insult has gone above my head - could you please explain.

English is preferable
I'll bet lots of things go above your head, Quisling.
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Re: Pensions

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dvbuk55 wrote:
moanmoanmoan wrote:Whilst I have a great deal of sympathy for the moving goalposts on pensions for those already enrolled what is wrong with closing the scheme to further members?

Most people in the private sector have to put up with money purchase schemes so why not new members to yours?

RM is loosing money and needs to move into the 21st Century to survive -you guys need to do the same.

I understand the anger over the changes to existing pension contributors T&Cs but other than this I think you are lemmings for striking - essentially you are hammering in the nails of your coffin

At the end of the day if the new T&C's are so bad then why don't you guys go and get another job?

Simple - jobs elsewhere would be paying minimum wage without a pension at all!!!
Listen - get an education - "RM is losing money" - I'll bet you're a right little barrack room lawyer -tell me - do you actually have a job? I know you have an opinion misguided though it is you probably think you're right.
That's him told mate! What a prick eh?
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Post by moanmoanmoan »

dvbuk55,

with regard to the education I have one. 12 O levels, 4 A levels, 2 S levels, a B.Sc(honours) and an MBA - obviously none of the qualifications are in typing.
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Post by IWW Fellow Worker »

moanmoanmoan wrote:dvbuk55,

with regard to the education I have one. 12 O levels, 4 A levels, 2 S levels, a B.Sc(honours) and an MBA - obviously none of the qualifications are in typing.
But doesn't know what a Fifth Columnist is.
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Post by moanmoanmoan »

IWW - why am I a traitor for pointing out what is obvious to the general public?

If you concentrated on work with the same vigour as whinging then the postal service really would be world class.

Most posties are hard working guys - you on the other hand are a member of the whinging socialist brigade whom the service can well do without
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IWW - Spanish history has never been my strong point.
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moanmoanmoan wrote:IWW - why am I a traitor for pointing out what is obvious to the general public?

If you concentrated on work with the same vigour as whinging then the postal service really would be world class.

Most posties are hard working guys - you on the other hand are a member of the whinging socialist brigade whom the service can well do without
f**k off Adolf. I've heard it all before. Come back when you've got something to say. :funneh 'Whinging'! What a dickhead!
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moanmoanmoan wrote:IWW - Spanish history has never been my strong point.
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
moanmoanmoan wrote:IWW - Spanish history has never been my strong point.
George Santayana:

Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
He's just another WUM Teebs. :wink:
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Post by dvbuk55 »

moanmoanmoan wrote:IWW - why am I a traitor for pointing out what is obvious to the general public?

If you concentrated on work with the same vigour as whinging then the postal service really would be world class.

Most posties are hard working guys - you on the other hand are a member of the whinging socialist brigade whom the service can well do without
:funneh :funneh :funneh :funneh

I'll just bet you was the dorm wag weren't you - go on admit it. With such an all encompassing education you must really have studied hard. You wasn't the geeky kid in specs who was unmercifully bullied was you? Wow - a degree no less - I'm not going to boast but my neighbour has a degree too. :Applause I think it is either in lego building or some other totally useless discipline. Perhaps you could enlighten us with your qualifications - although I think we can safely eliminate English. :d'oh!

Hey moanmoan - this degree - you didn't purchase it on line did you? I can see it all - "Kentucky School Of Eekonomiks" $40 - guaranteed to keep you on the dole as "overqualified".
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Post by moanmoanmoan »

IWW - as ever with your type you employ your interlect to the discussion.

You could use reasoning or back up your point - but no.

F**K off is the best you can come up with.

Anyone who disagrees with your own limited opinions and experiences is branded a fascist.

No wonder no agreement can be reached on the areas where the postal workers are being treated unfairly(pensions) when they are dealing with people like you that frankly should be sacked.

If you hit the real world and fully employed your talents ("would you like fries with that") then you would stop whinging