Why are people deliberately trying to cause an argument over a relatively simple thing designed to protect posties from violence and intimidation and allow them the opportunity to also protect their own principles.
Royal Mail has a duty to deliver all election material, that's fair enough. Individual members have the right to opt out of that process whether it's right wing drivel or left wing bollocks but it will still be delivered protecting your precious "democratic process".
Only a complete tosspot would see anything wrong in that.
Fish its lack of guidance which causes confusion. As the other guy said his office has not even got a rep so they are going to get ripped off. Our dom has been coming to me to ask for guidelines for delivery spans His had the same or more emails than me over the election material but cant be asked to read them. Hence we got 6p for the postal vote letters.
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
fishtank wrote:Why are people deliberately trying to cause an argument over a relatively simple thing designed to protect posties from violence and intimidation and allow them the opportunity to also protect their own principles.
Royal Mail has a duty to deliver all election material, that's fair enough. Individual members have the right to opt out of that process whether it's right wing drivel or left wing bollocks but it will still be delivered protecting your precious "democratic process".
Only a complete tosspot would see anything wrong in that.
On a serious note, what right does a postman have re not delivering political material
fishtank wrote:Why are people deliberately trying to cause an argument over a relatively simple thing designed to protect posties from violence and intimidation and allow them the opportunity to also protect their own principles.
Royal Mail has a duty to deliver all election material, that's fair enough. Individual members have the right to opt out of that process whether it's right wing drivel or left wing bollocks but it will still be delivered protecting your precious "democratic process".
Only a complete tosspot would see anything wrong in that.
On a serious note, what right does a postman have re not delivering political material
Well safety for one. Imagine having to deliver BNP material to a heavy ethnic populated area. Your asking for trouble and conflict which could result in a assault on the postman.
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
Dumpys Rusty Nuts wrote:On a serious note, what right does a postman have re not delivering political material
Freedom of thought, conscience or ideas.
'Tis the business of little minds to shrink, but they whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves their conduct, will pursue their principles unto death.
Leonardo da Vinci
Dumpys Rusty Nuts wrote:On a serious note, what right does a postman have re not delivering political material
Freedom of thought, conscience or ideas.
'Tis the business of little minds to shrink, but they whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves their conduct, will pursue their principles unto death.
Leonardo da Vinci
Dumpys Rusty Nuts wrote:
I to will have to deliver a boxload of left wing labour drivel. Just pretend your delivering a urine sample,
But hey, I don't want to get into a political debate
Labour - Left wing Ohh thats a good one. So left wing they wanted to part privatise Royal Mail, so left wing they never rescinded any major anti union laws, so left wing they invaded another country without UN approval, so left wing they closed 2,500 Post Offices so left wing the accepted a donation from the multi billionaire Bernie Ecclestone. so left wing that the iconic figure of Tony Blair supports an autocratic monarchy that does not allow freedom of speech or any form of dissention. Still if you think they are left wing you are entitled to your opinion but mine is that they are just a paler version of the Tories.
Up the workers, George Galloway for president. Im told Cuba is lovely this time of year.
Wrong type of left wingers. Your politics appear very one-dimensional Dumpy, almost DMesque.
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="Dumpys Rusty Nuts"]On a serious note, what right does a postman have re not delivering political material
None.
Personal safety of the postie is a valid point, but to suggest that " freedom of thought conscience or ideas" somehow pertains to Ukip leaflets and a postie's job is just crass.
What's the next step, a hard-line unionised office deciding that Tory propaganda won't be delivered, or a bunch of Right-leaning posties leaving the local Labour candidate's leaflets in the office?
Pathetic.
Realistically there is very little chance of anyone confronting a postie over a leaflet they take offence to, certainly no more than when we deliver late or damaged parcels/cards or leave gates open/walk across gardens etc.
This thread looks to me as though some people don't want to deliver certain parties leaflets because of their own political views, not because of safety, and that's not a valid reason for refusing to take them.
OnAFlyer wrote:Realistically there is very little chance of anyone confronting a postie over a leaflet they take offence to, certainly no more than when we deliver late or damaged parcels/cards or leave gates open/walk across gardens etc.
This thread looks to me as though some people don't want to deliver certain parties leaflets because of their own political views, not because of safety, and that's not a valid reason for refusing to take them.
However if as a result of personal circumstances or beliefs an individual requests alternative arrangements we will respond sympathetically.
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OnAFlyer wrote:Realistically there is very little chance of anyone confronting a postie over a leaflet they take offence to, certainly no more than when we deliver late or damaged parcels/cards or leave gates open/walk across gardens etc.
This thread looks to me as though some people don't want to deliver certain parties leaflets because of their own political views, not because of safety, and that's not a valid reason for refusing to take them.
People are much more likely to get p!ssed-off with:
6 door-dustbins dropping on their doormat and no mail when expecting something.
Grey revenue cards being posted to them.
Bent/damaged letters.
Not shutting the gate.
Lawn-walking.
P739's when they were 'in all along'...
A different postman each day who has no experience of their particular delivery foibles regarding 'under the garage door' or 'in mum's greenhouse' etc.
Making their hysterical mongrels bark.
Dumpys Rusty Nuts wrote:
Still not, unwilling, unable to answer my question, I wonder why.
Given that I was living in France for most of the 90s I don't really know what you are on about.
The figures for net immigration seem fairly stable until about 1999.
Certainly the figures for net immigration are significantly higher now.
Given that I am not a Labour voter and I don't really know (or care) what you are going on about I haven't been able/bothered to formulate any response.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
His had the same or more emails than me over the election material but cant be asked to read them. Hence we got 6p for the postal vote letters. 
