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Growth in parcels/Sunday delivery next?

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Rumple
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Re: Growth in parcels/Sunday delivery next?

Post by Rumple »

I can't work Sundays coz I have to go to church to repent all my sins from the night before. Jesus knows I like my Saturdays on the razzle and chasing muff. Our Maude would have a fit if she knew what I get up to but Father Andrews has promised that what I tell him will go no further. God I love church. :evil/mad
hubbahubba
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Re: Growth in parcels/Sunday delivery next?

Post by hubbahubba »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
A person can’t be made to work on Sundays unless they and their employer agree and put it in writing (eg change the contract).
However
An employee can opt out of Sunday working at any time, even if they have agreed to work on Sundays in their contract.

The employee must give their employer 3 months’ notice that they want to opt out of Sunday working. They must continue to work on Sundays during the 3 month notice period if their employer wants them to.An employee can opt out of Sunday working at any time, even if they have agreed to work on Sundays in their contract.

The employee must give their employer 3 months’ notice that they want to opt out of Sunday working. They must continue to work on Sundays during the 3 month notice period if their employer wants them to.
So if the CWU and RM agree to Sunday Working we all just Opt out. :left:
Just had a quick read of the linked government site,and i think that only applies to shopworkers and betting staff? :hmmmm
same as it ever was...
arnold cheshire
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Post by arnold cheshire »

Yumyum wrote:Moya Greene is all for a Sunday delivery with rivals like Amazon offering the service now. Is this our 'Agenda for Growth' that our union have signed up for? Would they have even told u in the ballot(bit like the no strike deal) mmmmm NO. Same-old/Same-old union. Might not happen just yet but it's coming it's the only way Royal Mail will b able 2 compete and stay near the top of an increasing 24/7 'I WANT IT NOW' market. Sunday delivery anyone!
one comment and gone ?
Yumyum
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Post by Yumyum »

Well Sunday delivery is here, w'ont get full rollout until September but after losing Amazon, and TNT expanding nationally through to 2017 including our manor in Southend it was inevitable. CWU are in negotiations now over Sunday pay rate and terms and conditions- still, would have been nice of them to consult us first before agreeing it!. We'll done Wardy :Applause . Will be voluntary for now, callers open for public to pick up, and delivery of packets, parcels, tracked,recorded, and specials, oh and any redeliveries. Chuck in a few letters and hey it's just a normal delivery day?. Trouble is with further declining mail volumes and Royal Mail having to justify the expense of Sunday they may cease delivery on the Monday or Tuesday. To comply with the USO and save shedloads of money Sunday will then be made a normal day...... Sunday delivery AS DUTY anyone?
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Re: Growth in parcels/Sunday delivery next?

Post by P13 »

Yumyum wrote:Well Sunday delivery is here, w'ont get full rollout until September but after losing Amazon, and TNT expanding nationally through to 2017 including our manor in Southend it was inevitable. CWU are in negotiations now over Sunday pay rate and terms and conditions- still, would have been nice of them to consult us first before agreeing it!. We'll done Wardy :Applause . Will be voluntary for now, callers open for public to pick up, and delivery of packets, parcels, tracked,recorded, and specials, oh and any redeliveries. Chuck in a few letters and hey it's just a normal delivery day?. Trouble is with further declining mail volumes and Royal Mail having to justify the expense of Sunday they may cease delivery on the Monday or Tuesday. To comply with the USO and save shedloads of money Sunday will then be made a normal day...... Sunday delivery AS DUTY anyone?
Only inside the M25 though and only 100 of the busiest callers offices
baldrick
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Re: Growth in parcels/Sunday delivery next?

Post by baldrick »

P13 wrote:Only inside the M25 though and only 100 of the busiest callers offices
While it is being trialled, but likely to be rolled out nationally after that.
Martin Walsh
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Re: Growth in parcels/Sunday delivery next?

Post by Martin Walsh »

baldrick wrote:
P13 wrote:Only inside the M25 though and only 100 of the busiest callers offices
While it is being trialled, but likely to be rolled out nationally after that.
Again the growth in parcels within the M25 is massive it now accounts to 15% of all Royal Mail parcels traffic. Will it be rolled out to other places , yes but only where it is financially viable.
dvbuk55
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Post by dvbuk55 »

Well if dingo says the increase is only round the M25 and it accounts for 15% of all parcel/packet traffic then it must be gospel.
newtimes
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Post by newtimes »

dvbuk55 wrote:Well if dingo says the increase is only round the M25 and it accounts for 15% of all parcel/packet traffic then it must be gospel.
"there are three kinds of falsehoods, lies, damned lies and statistics"
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/lies ... stics.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by Martin Walsh »

newtimes wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:Well if dingo says the increase is only round the M25 and it accounts for 15% of all parcel/packet traffic then it must be gospel.
"there are three kinds of falsehoods, lies, damned lies and statistics"
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/lies ... stics.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Why do you think they are doing it in the M25 ? It really is unbelievable that some of your spout allegations about bullying , that letters are not declining etc without any factual evidence and I quote a something which has been passed to the CWU as part of the audit which a company has to share with its shareholders and I get abuse.

If you want this site to be a place where you all share the same view without anyone giving an alternative then say it.
dvbuk55
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Re: Growth in parcels/Sunday delivery next?

Post by dvbuk55 »

dingo wrote:
newtimes wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:Well if dingo says the increase is only round the M25 and it accounts for 15% of all parcel/packet traffic then it must be gospel.
"there are three kinds of falsehoods, lies, damned lies and statistics"
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/lies ... stics.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Why do you think they are doing it in the M25 ? It really is unbelievable that some of your spout allegations about bullying , that letters are not declining etc without any factual evidence and I quote a something which has been passed to the CWU as part of the audit which a company has to share with its shareholders and I get abuse.

If you want this site to be a place where you all share the same view without anyone giving an alternative then say it.
If this information is being passed to the CWU then why is it not being passed to the members in an official capacity. It's OK passing nuggets of information but I'd like to see the corroborative evidence together with all the relative information that impacts on our working life - such as the timescale for a full roll out, how it's to be financed, when the new PDAs are to be issued and the area by area roll out of those. We must be in the age of communication with CWUTV, RMTV, emails, monthly publications from RM and the CWU - though why they haven't been amalgamated to save cash god only knows. Yet here we are in a private forum picking up information on an as and when basis.

I enjoy your input dingo but you made a statement about manning the barricades over bullying and harassment BUT failed to respond to the questions I asked about non union members being bullied and trying to galvanise a workforce into action with only a 55% union membership, like a good politician you answer questions with what you want heard not solutions to the problem. How do you make people adhere to the use of equipment and moreover make RM ensure that it is used - those questions remain unanswered together with the use of new PDAs which in no measure will answer those questions of no meal relief, early starting and non use of equipment.
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Re: Growth in parcels/Sunday delivery next?

Post by Tman »

Why do you think they are doing it in the M25 ? It really is unbelievable that some of your spout allegations about bullying , that letters are not declining etc without any factual evidence and I quote a something which has been passed to the CWU as part of the audit which a company has to share with its shareholders and I get abuse.
Ignore the silly-a*sed comments Dingo, you must realise by now some like to spout anything just to say something. Any info you can share is good.
dvbuk55
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Re: Growth in parcels/Sunday delivery next?

Post by dvbuk55 »

Tman wrote:
Why do you think they are doing it in the M25 ? It really is unbelievable that some of your spout allegations about bullying , that letters are not declining etc without any factual evidence and I quote a something which has been passed to the CWU as part of the audit which a company has to share with its shareholders and I get abuse.
Ignore the silly-a*sed comments Dingo, you must realise by now some like to spout anything just to say something. Any info you can share is good.
From the master of silly arsed comments.
Straight4ward
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Re: Growth in parcels/Sunday delivery next?

Post by Straight4ward »

newtimes wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:Well if dingo says the increase is only round the M25 and it accounts for 15% of all parcel/packet traffic then it must be gospel.
"there are three kinds of falsehoods, lies, damned lies and statistics"
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/lies ... stics.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Why a falsehood? Where is your evidence for this?
There is nothing particularly remarkable about a figure of 15%. It merely reflects the concentration of the total UK population within this comparatively small area. It doesn’t mean that Londoners have embraced online shopping any more enthusiastically than the rest of the country.

London accounts for around 12.5% of the population and the Greater London Urban Area (which is a closer fit to the confines of the M25) to around 15% of the population.

It makes sense for RM to trial Sunday deliveries where the population is most tightly concentrated and therefore demand is greatest.
Perhaps we are doing our own bit of cherry picking, for a change?
"Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway."
baldrick
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Re: Growth in parcels/Sunday delivery next?

Post by baldrick »

Tman wrote:Ignore the silly-a*sed comments Dingo, you must realise by now some like to spout anything just to say something. Any info you can share is good.
Blimey! That's the second time I've agreed with Tman!.