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WHY ARE PEOPLE WORKING FOR NOTHING ?

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Re: WHY ARE PEOPLE WORKING FOR NOTHING ?

Post by spiderj »

DB1100 wrote:
human1 wrote:I do ... and give at least 40 minutes .. just to make my life easy .... whats 40 minutes to me ? if I feel at ease and comfertable .... then I do not mind at all. Royal Mail is not bad employer and I am proud to work for RM.
And make all the people who come in on time and do the job right look bad,grow a pair and stop being selfish one day you might need the help of some of those people to keep your job.
And what he said
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

40*5*45 = 9000 minutes per year (45 is 52 weeks less 6 weeks holiday and 1 week Bank Holidays) = 150 hours. or for a FTimer nearly 4 weeks a year.

Coming in early by 40 minutes early a day is the equivalent of not taking over half your annual leave. But I won't condemn people for doing it, education is better than condemnation.
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:40*5*45 = 9000 minutes per year (45 is 52 weeks less 6 weeks holiday and 1 week Bank Holidays) = 150 hours. or for a FTimer nearly 4 weeks a year.

Coming in early by 40 minutes early a day is the equivalent of not taking over half your annual leave. But I won't condemn people for doing it, education is better than condemnation.
or another way of thinking its approximately £1600 pounds that could potential have been paid out on OT to someone willing to do it in the office,

or the difference between a 24 hour contract pt staff member being made up to a 30 hour contract
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Re: WHY ARE PEOPLE WORKING FOR NOTHING ?

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Many do this in our office to finish earlier. RM still allows staff to go home before the end of their duty time. So until RM clamp down on this in every office, it shall carry on!
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NewUnitRep wrote:Many do this in our office to finish earlier. RM still allows staff to go home before the end of their duty time. So until RM clamp down on this in every office, it shall carry on!
a little anonymous email to moya complaining about having to claim overtime to complete lapsing whilst other staff members are leaving the office before their contracted finish time, thus not utilising all available hours and the office incurring OT as a result will soon resolve that situation
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Re: WHY ARE PEOPLE WORKING FOR NOTHING ?

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zx135 wrote:
NewUnitRep wrote:Many do this in our office to finish earlier. RM still allows staff to go home before the end of their duty time. So until RM clamp down on this in every office, it shall carry on!
a little anonymous email to moya complaining about having to claim overtime to complete lapsing whilst other staff members are leaving the office before their contracted finish time, thus not utilising all available hours and the office incurring OT as a result will soon resolve that situation
Why?

Some people are genuinely making a bit of time, good luck to them.
This is down to poor management, so its up to them to address, not me.
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Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

NewUnitRep wrote:
zx135 wrote:
NewUnitRep wrote:Many do this in our office to finish earlier. RM still allows staff to go home before the end of their duty time. So until RM clamp down on this in every office, it shall carry on!
a little anonymous email to moya complaining about having to claim overtime to complete lapsing whilst other staff members are leaving the office before their contracted finish time, thus not utilising all available hours and the office incurring OT as a result will soon resolve that situation
Why?

Some people are genuinely making a bit of time, good luck to them.
This is down to poor management, so its up to them to address, not me.
those hours that are being saved could be going to part timers to increase their contracts, thus you would be looking after your members interests
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Re: WHY ARE PEOPLE WORKING FOR NOTHING ?

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zx135 wrote:
NewUnitRep wrote:
zx135 wrote:
NewUnitRep wrote:Many do this in our office to finish earlier. RM still allows staff to go home before the end of their duty time. So until RM clamp down on this in every office, it shall carry on!
a little anonymous email to moya complaining about having to claim overtime to complete lapsing whilst other staff members are leaving the office before their contracted finish time, thus not utilising all available hours and the office incurring OT as a result will soon resolve that situation
Why?

Some people are genuinely making a bit of time, good luck to them.
This is down to poor management, so its up to them to address, not me.
those hours that are being saved could be going to part timers to increase their contracts, thus you would be looking after your members interests
But what of those that are genuinely making more than they give?
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Post by Rudolph_Hucker »

spiderj wrote:Many reasons
1.they are afraid for their job
2.they can't cope with the workload so compensate by coming in early
3.they are being bullied into it by managers/colleagues
4.they haven't read a certain book about folk with ragged trousers and don't understand where their work ethic leads
5.lastly they might just be as mad as toast.
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Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

NewUnitRep wrote:
zx135 wrote:
NewUnitRep wrote:
zx135 wrote:
NewUnitRep wrote:Many do this in our office to finish earlier. RM still allows staff to go home before the end of their duty time. So until RM clamp down on this in every office, it shall carry on!
a little anonymous email to moya complaining about having to claim overtime to complete lapsing whilst other staff members are leaving the office before their contracted finish time, thus not utilising all available hours and the office incurring OT as a result will soon resolve that situation
Why?

Some people are genuinely making a bit of time, good luck to them.
This is down to poor management, so its up to them to address, not me.
those hours that are being saved could be going to part timers to increase their contracts, thus you would be looking after your members interests
But what of those that are genuinely making more than they give?
they should still be working all their hours they have not "made extra time" they should still be working up to the end of their contracted hours
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Re: WHY ARE PEOPLE WORKING FOR NOTHING ?

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zx135 wrote:
NewUnitRep wrote:
zx135 wrote:
NewUnitRep wrote:
zx135 wrote:
NewUnitRep wrote:Many do this in our office to finish earlier. RM still allows staff to go home before the end of their duty time. So until RM clamp down on this in every office, it shall carry on!
a little anonymous email to moya complaining about having to claim overtime to complete lapsing whilst other staff members are leaving the office before their contracted finish time, thus not utilising all available hours and the office incurring OT as a result will soon resolve that situation
Why?

Some people are genuinely making a bit of time, good luck to them.
This is down to poor management, so its up to them to address, not me.
those hours that are being saved could be going to part timers to increase their contracts, thus you would be looking after your members interests
But what of those that are genuinely making more than they give?
they should still be working all their hours they have not "made extra time" they should still be working up to the end of their contracted hours
But if not forced why do you think i as a rep should enforce management to do this??? Makes know odds to me, dies it you?
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Post by clashcityrocker »

NewUnitRep wrote:[
But if not forced why do you think i as a rep should enforce management to do this??? Makes know odds to me, does it you?
Because we have a national agreement that says "work all your paid hours".
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Re: WHY ARE PEOPLE WORKING FOR NOTHING ?

Post by Jpro747 »

And its always the ones that come in early and run like mad to get home are the same ones who moan because their round is too big, why we are always lapsing, and why we dont have enough staff... and then blame it all on the union.
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Re: WHY ARE PEOPLE WORKING FOR NOTHING ?

Post by soltan »

zx135 wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:40*5*45 = 9000 minutes per year (45 is 52 weeks less 6 weeks holiday and 1 week Bank Holidays) = 150 hours. or for a FTimer nearly 4 weeks a year.

Coming in early by 40 minutes early a day is the equivalent of not taking over half your annual leave. But I won't condemn people for doing it, education is better than condemnation.
or another way of thinking its approximately £1600 pounds that could potential have been paid out on OT to someone willing to do it in the office,

or the difference between a 24 hour contract pt staff member being made up to a 30 hour contract

Why would someone want £1600 when by not booking overtime they can add 0.00000000000001p to their share dividend!!! :nana They have been and still are destroying the job for everybody who is frontline staff
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Re: WHY ARE PEOPLE WORKING FOR NOTHING ?

Post by Chelseablue »

Human1 you make me sick