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on strike day

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GoingPostal86
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Re: on strike day

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Harry_Perkins wrote:
GoingPostal86 wrote:
Harry_Perkins wrote:
GoingPostal86 wrote:What about permanent 20hr posties that arent in the union? Only been in the job 9 months, not been approached to join the union so far.. still getting over the fact I managed to get the job at all!
You don't have to be in the union to take Industrial Action. Some offices are weaker than others and you may have to take the initiative to join yourself: http://www.cwu.org/join.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I was told I couldnt strike because I wasnt in the union and I wouldnt have the same protection etc..
Who told you this? You can't suffer detrimental treatment for taking IA, as I understand it. No matter if you're in the union or not.
A union member funnily enough :S
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Re: on strike day

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Harry_Perkins wrote:
GoingPostal86 wrote:
Harry_Perkins wrote:
GoingPostal86 wrote:What about permanent 20hr posties that arent in the union? Only been in the job 9 months, not been approached to join the union so far.. still getting over the fact I managed to get the job at all!
You don't have to be in the union to take Industrial Action. Some offices are weaker than others and you may have to take the initiative to join yourself: http://www.cwu.org/join.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I was told I couldnt strike because I wasnt in the union and I wouldnt have the same protection etc..
Who told you this? You can't suffer detrimental treatment for taking IA, as I understand it. No matter if you're in the union or not.
Correct even the Government say so. https://www.gov.uk/if-your-business-fac ... nd-strikes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Non-union staff and striking
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Re: on strike day

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GoingPostal86 wrote:
Harry_Perkins wrote:
GoingPostal86 wrote:
Harry_Perkins wrote:
GoingPostal86 wrote:What about permanent 20hr posties that arent in the union? Only been in the job 9 months, not been approached to join the union so far.. still getting over the fact I managed to get the job at all!
You don't have to be in the union to take Industrial Action. Some offices are weaker than others and you may have to take the initiative to join yourself: http://www.cwu.org/join.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I was told I couldnt strike because I wasnt in the union and I wouldnt have the same protection etc..
Who told you this? You can't suffer detrimental treatment for taking IA, as I understand it. No matter if you're in the union or not.
A union member funnily enough :S
Possibly trying to frighten you into joining but there is no need. We should have the confidence to make the case for joining without doing this.
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GoingPostal86
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Re: on strike day

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How long does it take to join up once i send off the form? I'll likely sign up anyway for other reasons
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Re: on strike day

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I am not in the Union (though have considered joining ; but was put off by the Rep)

But I support the strike , and am quite willing to lose a days (or more) pay and the £300 bribe.

So , I will not cross a picket line and will walk away.

Does that make me a scab? Or am I okay.?
(its a rhetorical question - (sp)
BTW the office I work in will mostly NOT strike.

So, maybe a non-union member will be at the forefront. :Very Happy

It annoys me intensely that Union Members do not back the Union ; and more importantly do not understand the issues.

It annoys me that after any strike day the usual suspects will hoover up overtime .

After any strike day surely one should only work their hours (or am I being stupid)

Rant over for the day
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Re: on strike day

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Why don't you ask your dom this question? It's a pretty obvious answer anyway......turn up for work as normal :d'oh!

It annoyed me today too as a fellow non union member who is prepared to strike that many of the numpties in my office who ARE in the union and voted YES for industrial action are now saying they will be coming in on the 4th. I think this £300 thing is playing on peoples minds.
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Re: on strike day

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piranha wrote:Why don't you ask your dom this question? It's a pretty obvious answer anyway......turn up for work as normal :d'oh!
He can't if he is refusing to cross the picket line, even if there isn't one. :Applause :Applause :Applause

No hampshireman - As long as you don't work on a strike day then you are not a scab. As long as you stay away from work even if you don't stand picket, then I will consider you a comrade, not in the lefty sense, but as someone who is on my side.
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Re: on strike day

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piranha wrote:Why don't you ask your dom this question? It's a pretty obvious answer anyway......turn up for work as normal :d'oh!

It annoyed me today too as a fellow non union member who is prepared to strike that many of the numpties in my office who ARE in the union and voted YES for industrial action are now saying they will be coming in on the 4th.
Okay. Maybe I don't undersatnd your answer , or maybe I am not clear enough. Don't know which.

It's the first line I don't get.
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Re: on strike day

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
piranha wrote:Why don't you ask your dom this question? It's a pretty obvious answer anyway......turn up for work as normal :d'oh!
He can't if he is refusing to cross the picket line, even if there isn't one. :Applause :Applause :Applause

No hampshireman - As long as you don't work on a strike day then you are not a scab. As long as you stay away from work even if you don't stand picket, then I will consider you a comrade, not in the lefty sense, but as someone who is on my side.
Thanks TBT.

Maybe I did not get my point accross well enough.

But the bottom line , even though not a member ; is that I wont work that day . With or without an imaginary ( or real ) picket line.
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Re: on strike day

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trevjim wrote:Im not going on strike, you can call me what you want I really dont care I have my reasons and opinions not to, I respect yours, so respect mine, but what I want to know is, on strike day do I just go in as normal?
Selfish,Cowardly,Act of Betrayal as opposed to Sausage Chips And Beans. :arrrghhh
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Re: on strike day

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korky wrote:i just lost my dad, which i'm in debt for the funeral, just got married, due to move house in a few weeks, working all hours i can manage,
but would i feck cross a picket line.
there's always someone worse off than you & i

I salute You Mate :Applause
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Re: on strike day

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Theres nothing like a bit of industrial action to bring out peoples true colours.
Theghost
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Re: on strike day

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Anyone not striking,Just despicable.
We will lose our pay for your benefits,Nobody wants to strike,But I can be proud to say I fought for my fellow workers,Once again.
These people are just sad in my eyes and will never be accepted or respected.
johno47
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Re: on strike day

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Trevjim, what's next tipping your cap to the boss as he walks past, Royal Mail workhouses, knowing my place, ridicules post, I've got a roof over my head because ive worked my b*****ks off for 40 years, RM haven't given it me for free, we have accepted change for the last 13 years and as a thank you we have been privatised so that rich people can get richer, I have the utmost respect for anyone who has served this country but it doesn't make you the font of all wisdom, if we were all like you we would be saying thanks very much in 3 years time when RM stick their foot up our arses as they give you 0 hours contracts or worse put you on the dole,
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Re: on strike day

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trevjim wrote:Wow it's like talking to kids having a tantrum.


The reason I won't strike is because I believe it to be greedy, set in your ways, and because the company owes you nothing so stop acting like it does.

You should all be lucky that you have a job, get paid, have a roof over your head etc. We have it so much better then millions in this country, we get a pay above minimum wage for unskilled work, we get pension, good hours with evenings and Sunday free.

The times are changing and lots of companies are changing, deal with it. It's life, royal mail is not your company, we do what's in the contract.

How did I get this view, I've served tours, seen the conditions some people in this world have it. I've had jobs doing 60-70 hours weeks, for minimum wage at horrible hours. When public sector strikes went on, I can assure you no one has sympothy for you. Your are greedy. Open your eyes to how good we have it, even if it gets worse, we still have it a lot better than others.
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