SCAB - Hellmail article

South East Postie · Post by **South East Postie** » 07 Oct 2007, 14:37

http://www.hellmail.co.uk/postalnews/te ... 6&zoneid=3

hellmail really winds me up. where is the picket line mans view? on the side in a small box, thats where. nice to see a balanced argument.

RobRoyThePostie · Post by **RobRoyThePostie** » 07 Oct 2007, 15:32

Don't let it bother you mate, I gave up on Hellmail a long time ago. Hellmail expect workers to just lie down and have management steamroll through change because RM "has to compete". Competition won't go away now, but that's no reason for management to cut the company to the bone. Whatever happened to collective bargaining?

They removed their forums because of many strong pro-union views that were being vented! And any disagreements were met with the "it's my site and if you don't like it, leave" line. I hardly give them the time of day anymore.

South East Postie · Post by **South East Postie** » 07 Oct 2007, 15:40

fair point mate. its just annoys me that public may come across this and its all they see and believe.

competition, it makes me laugh. who delivers it all again? oh yes, thats right, us.

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 07 Oct 2007, 16:44

Hellfail's favourite emoticons

Wild Cat · Post by **Wild Cat** » 07 Oct 2007, 16:53

RobRoyThePostie wrote:Don't let it bother you mate, I gave up on Hellmail a long time ago. Hellmail expect workers to just lie down and have management steamroll through change because RM "has to compete". Competition won't go away now, but that's no reason for management to cut the company to the bone. Whatever happened to collective bargaining?

They removed their forums because of many strong pro-union views that were being vented! And any disagreements were met with the "it's my site and if you don't like it, leave" line. I hardly give them the time of day anymore.

Don't you know RM have admitted there is no competition as they said in the courier it makes no economic sense for the UK economy for the Royal Mail infrastructure to be replicated.

We will still end up delivering it anyway.

Our market share of the deliveries market is actually on the increase.

F0zziebear · Post by **F0zziebear** » 07 Oct 2007, 17:28

John Duncan is a lifer at RM. He doesn't know what he's talking about. Better to believe people who are or have actually worked for the competition rather than a Royal Mail employee!

The competition have and are investing into their own E2E system. The reason is this is the only way they will make a profit from mail in this country. So please stop going on about some silly little article in the courier!

If you want to know more then you can PM me

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 07 Oct 2007, 17:59

If Hellmail is spoon fed by Royal Mail which I think most accept on here. Then tomorrow morning may be the most important part of this whole dispute. If you cannot make it too London then pop down to your Unit, even if its for only an hour IT WILL MAKE A STATEMENT.

billypants · Post by **billypants** » 07 Oct 2007, 18:20

I've been to every picket so far and it's strange how it's the same old faces that keep turning up . . . . . . so, like TBT says, pop along to your office on strike days even if it's just for a short time . . . . your workmates will be pleased to see you, the public will see more support, any pics in the local press show more support and your screws will notice how many are there too . . . . . not only that but, on our line at least, it's usually a good laugh

ROCKY · Post by **ROCKY** » 07 Oct 2007, 19:12

we take the mick out of that site for their one sided view point then attack any manager who comes on this site lets make sure we dont sink to their level and accept the oponion of all people, the boss will soon bin them if they get out of line but give others a chance and lets proove we are better than them

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 07 Oct 2007, 19:23

ROCKY wrote:we take the mick out of that site for their one sided view point then attack any manager who comes on this site lets make sure we dont sink to their level and accept the oponion of all people, the boss will soon bin them if they get out of line but give others a chance and lets proove we are better than them

I had to make that big as I agree with it so much

Rocky

L Tommo · Post by **L Tommo** » 07 Oct 2007, 19:25

Fair call rocks but there is an element of anyone who comes on here and just spouts shite just to whined people up then i and i know others aint gonna sit and take it mate.... I listen to points and make mine as many on here do but i will never compromise my points of view because of some scab and screw thinks they come n rub our noses in shite... In know you see and speak from the posties side and with a Managers view point that you had is welcome in my book as well... But its all about common sense and Like Fozzie, He speaks his mind but talks straight.... Thats all i want and many others the same... We are all here because of RM and we work because we need money... But its the way we go about it that matters and our princables and morals....

out

Budfrog · Post by **Budfrog** » 07 Oct 2007, 19:41

South East Postie wrote:its just annoys me that public may come across this and its all they see and believe.

Many HMail articles are found by the general public thru sites such as:

http://royal-mail-news.newslib.com/

They claim that the forums were pulled due to legal worries and that was actually a valid reason. However that is no excuse for continually publishing articles that are misleading >>> it makes you wonder what actually motivates the webmasters .... money no doubt.

Budfrog · Post by **Budfrog** » 07 Oct 2007, 19:47

ROCKY wrote:we take the mick out of that site for their one sided view point then attack any manager who comes on this site lets make sure we dont sink to their level and accept the oponion of all people, the boss will soon bin them if they get out of line but give others a chance and lets proove we are better than them

Only been attacked once ... not because of my viewpoint but just because I am an Admin Manager.

Could have posted without stating my grade and no doubt this would have prevented what turned out to be a very tedious tit-for-tat serious of childish posts (50% down to me

)

Post by **POSTMAN** » 07 Oct 2007, 21:03

Budfrog wrote:
ROCKY wrote:we take the mick out of that site for their one sided view point then attack any manager who comes on this site lets make sure we dont sink to their level and accept the oponion of all people, the boss will soon bin them if they get out of line but give others a chance and lets proove we are better than them
Only been attacked once ... not because of my viewpoint but just because I am an Admin Manager.

Could have posted without stating my grade and no doubt this would have prevented what turned out to be a very tedious tit-for-tat serious of childish posts (50% down to me )

Fair call,good of you to say.

axeman · Post by **axeman** » 07 Oct 2007, 23:11

Will reveal more of hellmai*l type managers soon, they say they aren't but i know better

but they now frequent the postmanchip forum of dedicated union bashers who slag us dinosaurs as we are called but i'd rather be a dino than a slug

ROYALMAILCHAT

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