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soozy
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Junk Mail
Despite having a 'No Junk Mail' sign on my door I still get unaddressed leaflets posted through my letterbox by the postman. I have emailed Royal Mail and have been advised to sign up for the Door to Door opt-out service. I don't see why I have to do this when I have that sign on my door. I have been pleasantly surprised to find no leaflets or unaddressed catalogues have been left since putting the sign up, EXCEPT for ones delivered by Royal Mail. I would like to know why postmen aren't told to respect signs on peoples doors requesting no junk mail.
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hantsman
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Junk Mail
soozy wrote:Despite having a 'No Junk Mail' sign on my door I still get unaddressed leaflets posted through my letterbox by the postman. I have emailed Royal Mail and have been advised to sign up for the Door to Door opt-out service. I don't see why I have to do this when I have that sign on my door. I have been pleasantly surprised to find no leaflets or unaddressed catalogues have been left since putting the sign up, EXCEPT for ones delivered by Royal Mail. I would like to know why postmen aren't told to respect signs on peoples doors requesting no junk mail.
You need to opt out, postmen are told to ignore your notice.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Junk Mail
In fact we are told to ignore them and unfortunately we do ignore them because they sack us if we don't deliver them - yes its true.soozy wrote:Despite having a 'No Junk Mail' sign on my door I still get unaddressed leaflets posted through my letterbox by the postman. I have emailed Royal Mail and have been advised to sign up for the Door to Door opt-out service. I don't see why I have to do this when I have that sign on my door. I have been pleasantly surprised to find no leaflets or unaddressed catalogues have been left since putting the sign up, EXCEPT for ones delivered by Royal Mail. I would like to know why postmen aren't told to respect signs on peoples doors requesting no junk mail.
I'd rather have a job and someone bending my ear for delivering Door to Doors, than not have a job and a poor job record.
I personally would like to know why we are instructed this way, I can't do a FOI, or ask the CEO because I am an employee, but if you find an answer any chance of posting it here.
However, even though it does annoy people, please don't be angry with us, we'd like to keep our jobs.
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The official reason for the existence of the Door-to-Door Opt-Out is that Royal Mail wants to ensure that people make an 'informed decision' about stopping unsolicited leaflets. As far as I'm aware Royal Mail is the only postal service in the world to have such a noble policy; in other countries you can simply stop unsolicited unaddressed mail items by placing a 'No Junk Mail' sign on your door. Royal Mail, however, instructs postmen to ignore 'No Junk Mail' signs.
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hantsman
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Re: Junk Mail
Im sure you can do a FOI request as an employee or do you mean you might become knownTrueBlueTerrier wrote:In fact we are told to ignore them and unfortunately we do ignore them because they sack us if we don't deliver them - yes its true.soozy wrote:Despite having a 'No Junk Mail' sign on my door I still get unaddressed leaflets posted through my letterbox by the postman. I have emailed Royal Mail and have been advised to sign up for the Door to Door opt-out service. I don't see why I have to do this when I have that sign on my door. I have been pleasantly surprised to find no leaflets or unaddressed catalogues have been left since putting the sign up, EXCEPT for ones delivered by Royal Mail. I would like to know why postmen aren't told to respect signs on peoples doors requesting no junk mail.
I'd rather have a job and someone bending my ear for delivering Door to Doors, than not have a job and a poor job record.
I personally would like to know why we are instructed this way, I can't do a FOI, or ask the CEO because I am an employee, but if you find an answer any chance of posting it here.
However, even though it does annoy people, please don't be angry with us, we'd like to keep our jobs.![]()
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Junk Mail
Bingohantsman wrote:
Im sure you can do a FOI request as an employee or do you mean you might become known
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fishtank
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Re: Junk Mail
It's because Royal Mail doesn't know what your particular definition of junk mail is.soozy wrote: I would like to know why postmen aren't told to respect signs on peoples doors requesting no junk mail.
It has no legal definition.
It's a stupid generic term.
That's why Royal Mail asks you to define it by using the Door to Door opt-out service.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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mandelsons_toenail
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Re: Junk Mail
I love this.
Those with "no junk mail" signs get extra from me
It's generally polite to start your first post with a "hello" aswell
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Sidley
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Re: Junk Mail
Bad MT, don't bait the public.
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bigcol
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Re: Junk Mail
mandelsons_toenail wrote:![]()
I love this.
Those with "no junk mail" signs get extra from me
It's generally polite to start your first post with a "hello" aswell![]()
I write off all their mail. It's all junk to me.
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bigcol
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Re: Junk Mail
soozy wrote: I would like to know why postmen aren't told to respect signs on peoples doors requesting no junk mail.
It's simple. The sender has paid to send it so quite rightly has an expectation to have it delivered. If the opt out is taken then they don't pay.
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NewPostieUK
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Re: Junk Mail
How exactly do you expect the sender to see the sign on your door?soozy wrote:Despite having a 'No Junk Mail' sign on my door I still get unaddressed leaflets posted through my letterbox by the postman.
If someone is sending you something you don't want, you need to stop them sending it. It's no good shooting the messenger.
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Snaggletooth
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Re: Junk Mail
I have actually seen an Employment Appeals Tribunal ruling on this stuff. RM does not acknowledge the existence of such a thing as "junk mail", it's all mail, and an employee who treats it differently and fails to deliver can and has been sacked for such a thing. Though the case I saw was a bit different to what is being discussed in this thread.fishtank wrote:It's because Royal Mail doesn't know what your particular definition of junk mail is.soozy wrote: I would like to know why postmen aren't told to respect signs on peoples doors requesting no junk mail.
It has no legal definition.
It's a stupid generic term.
That's why Royal Mail asks you to define it by using the Door to Door opt-out service.
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Sidley
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Re: Junk Mail
Another drive by sadly, just stayed long enough to whinge then vanishes never to return nor read our informative and helpful posts.
"I don't see why I have to...."
Says it all really
"I don't see why I have to...."
Says it all really
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fb1969
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Re: Junk Mail
and, of course, it is all the individual postie's fault.
Royal Mail
failing the workforce, failing the public and deliberately failing mail on a daily basis for too many years.
failing the workforce, failing the public and deliberately failing mail on a daily basis for too many years.