house alarm

[Stormproof]

Just recently had to go into a couple of conduct cases regarding doorstepping. One item was left in an unlocked porch, that is regarded as unsecure. So if you want to keep your job don't leave anything, the customer will drop you right in it if something goes tits up whether you've been doing it for weeks/months/years.

[justdeno]

So what happens when on the parcel it states safe place eg in porch or garage?

[UnhappyGremlin]

So what happens when on the parcel it states safe place eg in porch or garage?

Doesn't matter. If it went missing the customer who is the intended recipient would still complain.
Unless they have signed a letter and sent it to the manager on record, always P739. It covers you.

[arnold cheshire]

So what happens when on the parcel it states safe place eg in porch or garage?

safeplace tracked its ok

[arnold cheshire]

Today I had a parcel for a customer, it wasn't recorded or tracked and I would happily leave it by the door in the area the house is. However as the residents where out and they had a porch, I thought I would try the porch and leave it in there.

The door was unlocked so I popped the parcel in, however the moment I opened the porch door the house alarm went off! They and the neighbours where out so I couldnt do much so I just carried on and about 20 mins later the alarm was off and back to normal.

I've left parcels in porches many times and even have notes stuck on doors saying to do so on occasions.

Is this something we are allowed to do? (either way I won't be doing it on this house again!)

youve done nothing wrong trev

[arnold cheshire]

Today I had a parcel for a customer, it wasn't recorded or tracked and I would happily leave it by the door in the area the house is. However as the residents where out and they had a porch, I thought I would try the porch and leave it in there.

The door was unlocked so I popped the parcel in, however the moment I opened the porch door the house alarm went off! They and the neighbours where out so I couldnt do much so I just carried on and about 20 mins later the alarm was off and back to normal.

I've left parcels in porches many times and even have notes stuck on doors saying to do so on occasions.

Is this something we are allowed to do? (either way I won't be doing it on this house again!)

i went to a house a few weeks ago and the door was ajar and nobody answered so i left a p739 why leave your front door open if your not in ????

There wasn't a big puddle of blood on the floor just inside was there?

who cares i was off quick strange stuff

[Jynxx]

Surely if this is the case RM should stop putting "leave in a safe place" on tracked items? They've never once explained what a 'safe' place is....the drug using neighbour perhaps? Recycle bin? ....all we're told is use your judgement which is great until the coke head denies accepting the parcel then its your fault.

[arnold cheshire]

Surely if this is the case RM should stop putting "leave in a safe place" on tracked items? They've never once explained what a 'safe' place is....the drug using neighbour perhaps? Recycle bin? ....all we're told is use your judgement which is great until the coke head denies accepting the parcel then its your fault.

not if its a safe place item it doesnt matter if its with al capone your covered

[Lounge Lizard]

But a 'safe place' can only be somewhere locked or otherwise secure so there's no such thing as a 'safe place' for us. P739 every time.

[Caniel]

Argh! Never never doorstep or leave items in porches, sheds, bins etc. if it goes missing you're the one at fault and could lose your job! Don't give them ammunition, do the job properly.

[RobertT]

I have a house on my walk that has no letterbox at all and the only place to put any mail, parcels, papers, etc is to open the permanently unlocked porch door and throw them in.

[bigcol]

I have a house on my walk that has no letterbox at all and the only place to put any mail, parcels, papers, etc is to open the permanently unlocked porch door and throw them in.

Knock on door, if noone answers, take back to office and write off. If someone answers, tell them they've got a week to put in a letter box or you're going to write all their mail off.

[crazyshrew]

I have a house on my walk that has no letterbox at all and the only place to put any mail, parcels, papers, etc is to open the permanently unlocked porch door and throw them in.

we have a couple where the official delivery point for all mail is under a stone on the doorstep! plus several more make do with recycling bins or plastic storage containers. I'd say even an unlocked porch is a much more secure place to leave items than some places we HAVE to leave some mail

[arnold cheshire]

I have a house on my walk that has no letterbox at all and the only place to put any mail, parcels, papers, etc is to open the permanently unlocked porch door and throw them in.

we have a couple where the official delivery point for all mail is under a stone on the doorstep! plus several more make do with recycling bins or plastic storage containers. I'd say even an unlocked porch is a much more secure place to leave items than some places we HAVE to leave some mail

yes ive got one where you put mail in the recycling box and put the brick on top of it and an unlocked porch door with no letter box at least you can get packets easier

[RobertT]

Come to think of it, I know of one place where the official arrangement is to put the mail in an upside down tupperware container with a brick on top.