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BOYCOTT OF COMPETITORS’ MAIL – LEGAL POSITION

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In fact I think the whole thing was a bit of a game played by RM and the CWU.
Neither side wants the end to end competition.

So we pretended we were considering boycotting DSA.
They rushed off to the High Court for an injunction to stop us doing something we never intended doing.
And we got some press coverage.
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clashcityrocker wrote:Why would they inquire about RM stopping it if they never had any intention of undertaking it?
There was never going to be Industrial Action on the basis of a consultative ballot.
well that's not the impression dave ward and fat billys letter gives. I know there was plenty of people believed (I was among them) it was going to happen.
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daveyeff wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:Why would they inquire about RM stopping it if they never had any intention of undertaking it?
There was never going to be Industrial Action on the basis of a consultative ballot.
well that's not the impression dave ward and fat billys letter gives. I know there was plenty of people believed (I was among them) it was going to happen.

It still might -
Firstly, we will explore if there is any legal way of carrying out a future boycott as part of a properly constituted industrial action ballot
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clashcityrocker wrote:So we pretended we were considering boycotting DSA.
They rushed off to the High Court for an injunction to stop us doing something we never intended doing.
And we got some press coverage.

Meanwhile your members think you've caved in.
It may not turn out to be a very smart game in the long run.
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waste of time moya and the rest of her crooks with be laughing at us and the cwu :dance , more work , more savings , no pay rise etc , I see ia was mentioned again 1 day a week as usual waste of time I think its got to be rolling its s**t or bust now. the only way to shaft this company and the privatization .
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Remember there are always 2 winners in these negotiations and they are cwu and management and then the 1 loser and you know who that is us the postie. But that is life and you have to make the most of it
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The pay offer was a closed offer which means it cannot be revealed unless the union accepts it. The pay offer was also dependent on the CWU agreeing to the pension change , accepting the sell off , agreeing to an agenda for growth , a new IR agreement , a new governance model and a range of other issues.

The PEC rejected the offer yesterday , and no doubt Royal Mail will release the offer in due course. The CWU have also called a policy forum / special conference for late next month on pensions and what to do next and the PEC agreed that we will be balloting the membership for strike action in September over pensions , pay and the fact that Royal Mail won't sign into a legally binding agreements on protection of our pay and conditions , that no work is outsourced , that no delivery routes are franchised , that all new recruits are on the same pay and conditions , MTSF to be extended , all our agreements to be maintained unless re negotiated and a range of other issues.
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aboot time. thank you. that's cheered me up. ta. :Very Happy
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It was no game. To get an injunction is not a case of winning an agreement as the actual case to do that maybe 9 months away. All Royal Mail wanted was to get an injunction which would have stopped the union from not only a boycott but balloting on actual strike action. The unions paid counsel advised that Royal Mail would get an injunction the union then agreed the words which now allow them to legally ballot for strike action.
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thanks for switching the light on dingo. its now clear. cheers
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Good news - lets hope the fighting talk for everyone stays at the same level. A war is coming, everyone needs to gird their loins.
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We have to start communication with members now.
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Good news - lets hope the fighting talk for everyone stays at the same level. A war is coming, everyone needs to gird their loins.
is that loins or LIONS.
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Thanks Dingo for the update :Applause :Applause

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AND WHY CAN A CLOSED OFFER NOT BE REVEALED
its not up to billy and dave to accept anything it should be put to members to decide
UNLESS CWU DONT WANT THEIR MEMBERSHIP TO KNOW