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Riddle or Cut-Off - Current Union Policy?
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BernardBresslaw
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Re: Riddle or Cut-Off - Current Union Policy?
Well my union rep was on the ball this morning. Finally allowed to cut off. Though it was still not a traditional cut-off as I had to just bring back the surplus at the end of my time, and it is still there now (I'm guessing). Not my problem though.
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mandelsons_toenail
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Re: Riddle or Cut-Off - Current Union Policy?
BernardBresslaw wrote:Well my union rep was on the ball this morning. Finally allowed to cut off. Though it was still not a traditional cut-off as I had to just bring back the surplus at the end of my time, and it is still there now (I'm guessing). Not my problem though.
Wonder if it was reported as a failure?
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BernardBresslaw
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Re: Riddle or Cut-Off - Current Union Policy?
Bump for this as the issue is rearing it's head in my office again.
Was told to riddle this morning, I refused, saying I would be cutting off. Was told 'you can't' - discussions between managers and rep followed with no conclusion, so I just worked to my time and brought back what I couldn't deliver.
My question - can my rep still get in touch with Bob Gibson on my behalf bgibson@cwu.org and, for the here-and-now, what do I tell my manager when he next asks me to riddle/skim? Do I just take my rep as a witness and bring back what I can't deliver during my duty time?
Thanks in advance.
Was told to riddle this morning, I refused, saying I would be cutting off. Was told 'you can't' - discussions between managers and rep followed with no conclusion, so I just worked to my time and brought back what I couldn't deliver.
My question - can my rep still get in touch with Bob Gibson on my behalf bgibson@cwu.org and, for the here-and-now, what do I tell my manager when he next asks me to riddle/skim? Do I just take my rep as a witness and bring back what I can't deliver during my duty time?
Thanks in advance.
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hampshireman
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Re: Riddle or Cut-Off - Current Union Policy?
If you say you cant complete ; then that is fact (as long as you can back that up).. Your Rep is weak on this and your DOM is a complete arse.BernardBresslaw wrote:Bump for this as the issue is rearing it's head in my office again.
Was told to riddle this morning, I refused, saying I would be cutting off. Was told 'you can't' - discussions between managers and rep followed with no conclusion, so I just worked to my time and brought back what I couldn't deliver.
My question - can my rep still get in touch with Bob Gibson on my behalf bgibson@cwu.org and, for the here-and-now, what do I tell my manager when he next asks me to riddle/skim? Do I just take my rep as a witness and bring back what I can't deliver during my duty time?
Thanks in advance.
Streaming mail is a no no. And you should refuse to do it. If they (Management ) insist ; then still refuse and then ask for a grievance form.
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BernardBresslaw
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Re: Riddle or Cut-Off - Current Union Policy?
Thanks. We are post-revision and the round I am on allows for 60 minutes of IPS on a Thursday. Today was a heavy day, certainly above the 'model week' and yet I was held back to do 90 minutes, so it is pretty obvious why I couldn't complete. I don't mind doing more indoor work, but it means bringing back outdoor work, when it is busy.
The amusing thing is, when I told him I would be cutting-off, he said 'we aren't allowed to any more'
I asked to see that in writing and strangely enough, no document was forthcoming.
The amusing thing is, when I told him I would be cutting-off, he said 'we aren't allowed to any more'
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BarnsleyLackey
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Re: Riddle or Cut-Off - Current Union Policy?
I've never heard of this Sh!t. It sounds like managerial wilful delay to me. I'd say it's everyone round the packet bag frames while the rep goes through the ins and outs of it.
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mandelsons_toenail
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Re: Riddle or Cut-Off - Current Union Policy?
Why is the rep weak?
Absolute bollocks.
Absolute bollocks.
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fishtank
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Re: Riddle or Cut-Off - Current Union Policy?
I wouldn't go as far as to say the rep was weak but it's been an ongoing issue in that office for some time and really should have been sorted out long before now.mandelsons_toenail wrote:Why is the rep weak?
The rep might not be getting enough support from Branch,perhaps that is where the weakness lies but at the end of the day it's an unacceptable position for members to be placed in.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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mandelsons_toenail
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Re: Riddle or Cut-Off - Current Union Policy?
Fair point.
Sounds to me like management sing different song each day

Sounds to me like management sing different song each day
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BernardBresslaw
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Re: Riddle or Cut-Off - Current Union Policy?
To be fair, my rep is doing a decent job, and is always there when I need some back-up, so fair play to him. The only thing I would say, is perhaps he needs to take things to the next level - if management say to do something that amounts to wilful delay, perhaps get onto the area-rep and see how to take it further. If I get any more hassle, I will just be putting it in writing, co-signed by a witness, that a manager is asking me to riddle, and leave it at that. I can't see what more I can do.
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Rudolph_Hucker
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Re: Riddle or Cut-Off - Current Union Policy?
I've looked through the 'glossary of terms' section but I couldn't find riddle or stream.
So what is it please?
So what is it please?
If you do a job too well, you’ll get stuck with it.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Riddle or Cut-Off - Current Union Policy?
To withdraw various items or classes of mail from delivery.Rudolph_Hucker wrote:I've looked through the 'glossary of terms' section but I couldn't find riddle or stream.
So what is it please?
For example, withdraw MS3 (the ones with an M where the stamp usually is) or DSA, or only deliver dated and stamped mail.
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Rudolph_Hucker
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Re: Riddle or Cut-Off - Current Union Policy?
Thanks, so in effect filtering mail.TrueBlueTerrier wrote:To withdraw various items or classes of mail from delivery.Rudolph_Hucker wrote:I've looked through the 'glossary of terms' section but I couldn't find riddle or stream.
So what is it please?
For example, withdraw MS3 (the ones with an M where the stamp usually is) or DSA, or only deliver dated and stamped mail.
If you do a job too well, you’ll get stuck with it.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Riddle or Cut-Off - Current Union Policy?
Rudolph_Hucker wrote:Thanks, so in effect filtering mail.TrueBlueTerrier wrote:To withdraw various items or classes of mail from delivery.Rudolph_Hucker wrote:I've looked through the 'glossary of terms' section but I couldn't find riddle or stream.
So what is it please?
For example, withdraw MS3 (the ones with an M where the stamp usually is) or DSA, or only deliver dated and stamped mail.
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BarnsleyLackey
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Re: Riddle or Cut-Off - Current Union Policy?
And what about when we start with this world class mail? An office near ours is supposedly going through the change to enable this. If what I hear about the basics of world class mail are true (everything in the office MUST go), then you're back to square one, with no filtering and more delay waiting for mail to be sorted, before you get out on a duty that's already too big.TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Rudolph_Hucker wrote:Thanks, so in effect filtering mail.TrueBlueTerrier wrote:To withdraw various items or classes of mail from delivery.Rudolph_Hucker wrote:I've looked through the 'glossary of terms' section but I couldn't find riddle or stream.
So what is it please?
For example, withdraw MS3 (the ones with an M where the stamp usually is) or DSA, or only deliver dated and stamped mail.![]()