roger wrote:I would just like to add,contrary to what a lot of people think RM do not just give start and leaving date for a reference they also respond to questions asked, such as how many days off sick has the person had in the last year,has the person had any disciplinary action against them,we're there any disciplinary hearings outstanding when they left and would you re-employ that person again and what was the reason for them leaving.I know this because I saw my reference after I had started my new job.
Not true, RM only supply dates, job title, reason for leaving, nothing else.
Well in that case I must be very special because I saw my reference with my own eyes,and I'm not a liar.
Scan in your letter on here then minus your personal details.
roger wrote:I would just like to add,contrary to what a lot of people think RM do not just give start and leaving date for a reference they also respond to questions asked, such as how many days off sick has the person had in the last year,has the person had any disciplinary action against them,we're there any disciplinary hearings outstanding when they left and would you re-employ that person again and what was the reason for them leaving.I know this because I saw my reference after I had started my new job.
I can only imagine you gave your new employer your DOM/Manager contact details at your place of work? If so they probably should have forwarded it to HR. I'm guessing all was positive in the reference and you got on well with your managers. But if this is the scenario it's against procedure, HR should do the references.
The regs on reference giving have changed. No longer is a company allowed to give a "bad" reference. Gone are the days when you can be slagged off by a vindictive gaffa.
A good reference can be given OR a "just the facts" reference can be given......but its amazing what can be said by not saying anything at all and by reading between the lines
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I saw the letter yesterday and it does just seem a standard form. RM have a lot of employees and I think new job just asked if thefemalepostie (obviously real name lol) worked there. I have a common surname so RM obviously have to be sure they give the right persons info. I had to put name, address, pay number, work dates and then tick box to give permission for them to give a reference and sign.
I'm keeping everything crossed, that it will be just a standard yes she worked x to x and pay scale. If they did send it to my DOM I would be very worried!
roger wrote:I would just like to add,contrary to what a lot of people think RM do not just give start and leaving date for a reference they also respond to questions asked, such as how many days off sick has the person had in the last year,has the person had any disciplinary action against them,we're there any disciplinary hearings outstanding when they left and would you re-employ that person again and what was the reason for them leaving.I know this because I saw my reference after I had started my new job.
Not true, RM only supply dates, job title, reason for leaving, nothing else.
Well in that case I must be very special because I saw my reference with my own eyes,and I'm not a liar.
Scan in your letter on here then minus your personal details.
This could get interesting
Depends on when you applied for a reference. Prior to a certain date, they could put certain details in. But after a particualr time ( I cannot remember when) Employers can only give out certain facts re your employment. But if bthis chap has two other good ones, he shouldn't worry!
zaphod wrote:Does anyone have the correct Royal Mail e-mail address to authorise your consent?
The one I have been given has sent my e-mail back to me PDQ.
Thanks
You can only email HR from a royalmail.com email address.
Us menials have to either write of phone them.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been. My BFF Clash The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
Depends on when you applied for a reference. Prior to a certain date, they could put certain details in. But after a particualr time ( I cannot remember when) Employers can only give out certain facts re your employment. But if bthis chap has two other good ones, he shouldn't worry!