Door To Door Opt Out

Senior Service · Post by **Senior Service** » 01 Oct 2007, 16:17

I wonder how many of you out there are thinking the same as me; if we are forced to take out up to 6 D2D's with no payment i will certainly passing on information to customers as to how to opt out of D2D's.

Despite some publicity in the past - i am thinking about the postie they sacked in Wales for encouraging his customers to opt i am sure alot of people still dont know how to opt out.

Well you can bet i will be telling all who want to know - not very good for 'the business' but thats how they make me feel now!

I know they can contact customer services on 08457740740 but i dont know how much the call costs? Another issue has just come to mind if it does cost to ring customer services why should people have to pay to stop unwanted and not requested mail - Surely it should be an opt in system, if you want it ask for it.

One last thing if we are still to be paid for D2D's ignore the above!!!!!!

wakkono · Post by **wakkono** » 01 Oct 2007, 16:22

the postie in question from wales works in an office not far from here he wasnt sacked he was moved off his round and was offered work in cardiff mail center but he refused last i heard it was inthe hands of the cwu ......

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 01 Oct 2007, 16:43

His name was Roger Ames - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5294708.stm

0845 is a local rate Number

http://www.royalmail.com/portal/rm/cont ... aId=500081 - Opt out details for D2D.

http://www.mpsonline.org.uk/mpsr/ - for addressed Junk Mail

Hope that helps

pilsbury · Post by **pilsbury** » 01 Oct 2007, 17:28

I will lose about Â£1500 a year if they get their way,now tell me where the pay rise is in that.To lose a few days pay whilst out striking is the only way to beat the bastards im afraid.

goinpostal · Post by **goinpostal** » 01 Oct 2007, 17:36

Senior Service wrote:I wonder how many of you out there are thinking the same as me; if we are forced to take out up to 6 D2D's with no payment i will certainly passing on information to customers as to how to opt out of D2D's.

is this for definite, i mean i know they are going to try it on for sure and try and makee us do it for free, but have they leaked that yet?? how about eleciton material?

wakkono · Post by **wakkono** » 01 Oct 2007, 17:41

its definate didnt you read the letter from the union the other day its all there in black and white you will gain 2 more d2d but will absorb the 3 that we currently get paid for

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 01 Oct 2007, 17:51

Well actually Pink and Black

- Check out the mailing from the CWU para

4 Door to Door Election Material:

Link http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/vi ... c&start=15

see K66lya Post

goinpostal · Post by **goinpostal** » 01 Oct 2007, 17:59

it just says to be absorbed as normal mail but nothing about numbers of d2ds

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 01 Oct 2007, 18:01

goinpostal wrote:it just says to be absorbed as normal mail but nothing about numbers of d2ds

absorbed as normal mail is management speak for we wont get paid for them.

"that will both increase reliability and capacity" the capacity meaning they are going to increase it but they don't mention a cap as they don't want a cap.

goinpostal · Post by **goinpostal** » 01 Oct 2007, 18:29

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
goinpostal wrote:it just says to be absorbed as normal mail but nothing about numbers of d2ds
absorbed as normal mail is management speak for we wont get paid for them.

"that will both increase reliability and capacity" the capacity meaning they are going to increase it but they don't mention a cap as they don't want a cap.

cheers trÃ¼blÃ¼

where did the number 6 come from?

Spedley · Post by **Spedley** » 01 Oct 2007, 18:47

I think you'd get the sack for encouraging people to opt out of D2Ds. It's a fine line between providing customers with information about our services (i.e. how to opt out) and deliberately damaging RMs buisness.

I would suggest that any opt-out information be done on a personal basis in conversation and not given to anybody who has not asked for it. I'd also avoid giving people phone numbers on RM stationary, i.e. don't write the phone number on a P739 for them.

Remember that you do not want RM to lose buisness, you want their customers to complain to the point where RM will lose buisness if they do not come to and agreement with us.

jemima · Post by **jemima** » 01 Oct 2007, 19:25

There's quite lot of money to be made from recycling paper. Perhaps we could have collection points for used D2Ds in Post Offices? The profits to be used to pay postmen for delivering the D2Ds? So RM could do more of them with a clear conscience about the environment and postmen would get paid for the work?

Turpin · Post by **Turpin** » 01 Oct 2007, 19:48

You lot having a girraffe do your own opt out leavelet get all your customers to sign up no d2d no payment issue its the dogs bollox problem solved

wakkono · Post by **wakkono** » 01 Oct 2007, 19:52

thats true ive been on my round for years and i dont deliver all my d2d now cause the people say they dont want them but i still claim for them so if the money goes ill just declare that they dont want them and tell em how to stop them oficially

not me · Post by **not me** » 01 Oct 2007, 21:40

Turpin wrote:You lot having a girraffe do your own opt out leavelet get all your customers to sign up no d2d no payment issue its the dogs bollox problem solved

yup thats my plan.just do an anonomous D2D listing how to opt out.
i would say it will easily kill 80%+
after that i can re D2D any who are left

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