privitisation/park and loop

[newtimes]

Reading the different posts, some p&l work others are a total nightmare. We have gone through a revision and all what they did was to join 4 deliveries into 2 deliveries and then made it P&L. It was voted in because most of the deliveries were not changed so the majority wanted it to get the payment. Its a total mess and the manager has now left. Its only working because of people coming in early, taking short cuts and using their own cars. Our revision is a failure due to the structure and not due to the concept. The structure failed due to weak leadership, will it improve with privatisation, I do not know but it will be linked to the framework of the delivery structure.

[IloveMYredTROLLEY!]

The core problem is three-fold, most walks were created around the quiet "model week" period so that nobody would finish rediculously early around late July (instead of basing walk size on average day workloads and lapsing during the quiet periods); while management naively think that pushing a ~35Kg LWT (32Kg mail plus trolley frame) or a 104/125Kg HCT (~75Kg mail plus trolley weight) is no slower than carrying 16/11Kg pouches on the shoulder; with attendence packet call rates even outside Xmas now way beyond the model 3%.

[pokos27]

it will be called tnt, conditions will be crap

[Danelectro]

One postie - one High Capacity Trolley (MK 2), with proper vans to ensure conveyance out and back would work a lot better..

HCT's have huge terrain limitations,high maintenance costs and transferring them to and from vehicles should be avoided if possible because it's a high accident risk.
I don't think they are the solution either.

the cost of getting planning permission from councils for the network of pouch boxes across the UK must have been phenomenal and I often think is there no way of finding a delivery system that can utilise that in some way and maybe greatly increase increase the size of some of the current boxes... The increase in vehicles used after a revision is incredible..i keep asking for figures for the transport costs before and after but of course nobody has a clue

[fishtank]

the cost of getting planning permission from councils for the network of pouch boxes across the UK must have been phenomenal and I often think is there no way of finding a delivery system that can utilise that in some way and maybe greatly increase increase the size of some of the current boxes... The increase in vehicles used after a revision is incredible..i keep asking for figures for the transport costs before and after but of course nobody has a clue

I think some kind of hybrid version of park&loop using the boxes and trolleys could work.
Support duties wouldn't be needed if your partner is in the area anyway delivering oversized packets and tracked.
They better hurry up though,two of my boxes have died since P&L came in.

[Danelectro]

the cost of getting planning permission from councils for the network of pouch boxes across the UK must have been phenomenal and I often think is there no way of finding a delivery system that can utilise that in some way and maybe greatly increase increase the size of some of the current boxes... The increase in vehicles used after a revision is incredible..i keep asking for figures for the transport costs before and after but of course nobody has a clue

I think some kind of hybrid version of park&loop using the boxes and trolleys could work.
Support duties wouldn't be needed if your partner is in the area anyway delivering oversized packets and tracked.
They better hurry up though,two of my boxes have died since P&L came in.

gee! and its been painted red! very posh

[thefridge]

when privatization comes park and loop will be no longer as its the single biggest failure in royal mail history.

Its park and loop that will protect our jobs, idiot runners have done more harm over the years and I dare say still are in parts.
How can you call park and loop a failure when a look at the latest profits suggests otherwise...

Do your jobs properly, stop whining about having to work your full hours (some still do this I've heard) use the tools you've been given and stand up to managers who argue against you using methods we all agreed and your job will seem so much easier...

[IloveMYredTROLLEY!]

when privatization comes park and loop will be no longer as its the single biggest failure in royal mail history.

Its park and loop that will protect our jobs, idiot runners have done more harm over the years and I dare say still are in parts.
How can you call park and loop a failure when a look at the latest profits suggests otherwise...

I suspect the real reason for profits is the exponential growth in packets, not P&L ;)

[clashcityrocker]

when privatization comes park and loop will be no longer as its the single biggest failure in royal mail history.

Its park and loop that will protect our jobs, idiot runners have done more harm over the years and I dare say still are in parts.
How can you call park and loop a failure when a look at the latest profits suggests otherwise...

I suspect the real reason for profits is the exponential growth in packets, not P&L ;)

I suspect the real reason for profits is the sale of and merger of DOs and MCs.

[fishtank]

when privatization comes park and loop will be no longer as its the single biggest failure in royal mail history.

Its park and loop that will protect our jobs, idiot runners have done more harm over the years and I dare say still are in parts.
How can you call park and loop a failure when a look at the latest profits suggests otherwise...

I suspect the real reason for profits is the exponential growth in packets, not P&L ;)

I suspect the real reason for profits is the sale of and merger of DOs and MCs.

I suspect the real reason for profits is not having to pay £250 million into the pension deficit.

[cyclemech1]

when privatization comes park and loop will be no longer as its the single biggest failure in royal mail history.

Its park and loop that will protect our jobs, idiot runners have done more harm over the years and I dare say still are in parts.
How can you call park and loop a failure when a look at the latest profits suggests otherwise...

I suspect the real reason for profits is the exponential growth in packets, not P&L ;)

I suspect the real reason for profits is the sale of and merger of DOs and MCs.

I suspect the real reason for profits is not having to pay £250 million into the pension deficit.

I suspect the real reason for profits is the biggest rise in stamp prices ever.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

when privatization comes park and loop will be no longer as its the single biggest failure in royal mail history.

Its park and loop that will protect our jobs, idiot runners have done more harm over the years and I dare say still are in parts.
How can you call park and loop a failure when a look at the latest profits suggests otherwise...

I suspect the real reason for profits is the exponential growth in packets, not P&L ;)

I suspect the real reason for profits is the sale of and merger of DOs and MCs.

I suspect the real reason for profits is not having to pay £250 million into the pension deficit.

I suspect the real reason for profits is the biggest rise in stamp prices ever.

The 30% price rise in first-class stamps, and 39% rise for second-class, mark the biggest annual increase in percentage terms since 1975.

[dvbuk55]

when privatization comes park and loop will be no longer as its the single biggest failure in royal mail history.

Its park and loop that will protect our jobs, idiot runners have done more harm over the years and I dare say still are in parts.
How can you call park and loop a failure when a look at the latest profits suggests otherwise...

I suspect the real reason for profits is the exponential growth in packets, not P&L ;)

I suspect the real reason for profits is the sale of and merger of DOs and MCs.

I suspect the real reason for profits is not having to pay £250 million into the pension deficit.

I suspect the real reason for profits is the biggest rise in stamp prices ever.

The 30% price rise in first-class stamps, and 39% rise for second-class, mark the biggest annual increase in percentage terms since 1975.

Goody - that means the biggest pay rise of the century surely, I mean raking in all this money from stamps, no pension deficit and a huge hike in parcels and packets - whoopee, yep bring on the good times

[PhilthyPhil]

the cost of getting planning permission from councils for the network of pouch boxes across the UK must have been phenomenal and I often think is there no way of finding a delivery system that can utilise that in some way and maybe greatly increase increase the size of some of the current boxes... The increase in vehicles used after a revision is incredible..i keep asking for figures for the transport costs before and after but of course nobody has a clue

Royal Mail do not need planning permission for pouch boxes or post boxes. Although I think they probably do if it is in a conservation area, not 100% sure. All they need is the council to do a records check for any underground cables/pipes etc. The same thing applies to BT and their cabinets, they do not need planning permission for them.

[POSTMAN]

You do need planning permission,it's not a case of there is nothing underneath and off you go.
We had a lot of problems in 'the old days' getting pouch boxes put up round my way.