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Our Revision
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makemyday
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Re: Our Revision
Royal Mail use Pegasus/GEORoute on the assumption that we are all robots. There are so many reasons why rounds cannot be completed at the specified time that the computer makes no allowance for. If, for example, you mention endless badly- aligned, awkward gates that involve lifting and pieces of string, the planners will probably just shrug their shoulders. Also, as the delivery span is much longer than before, why is no consideration made for fatigue which is far more likely to set in over the final two loops?
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eastie
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Our Revision
Why dont the planners get off their fat arses and check the walks themselves. Surely in the long run doing one walk a day properly is better than Georoute and guesswork and they can be shown by the postman all the steps ,hazards, one way streets, hills , flats etc or is that too easy ?
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Martin Walsh
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Re: Our Revision
my concern is that the revison planning is a joint plan. All offices should go through the 6 step process and there are over a hundred tasks which should be jointly worked on.
In terms of geo route every walking duty holder should be called first to identify all their addresses on their walk , this is called Sid and Sarah , there should be packet counts per walk , call rate counts , redirection counts .
In terms of the spans which geo route throw up they may well throw up a 4 hour walk but then you meant to put in the manuel adjustments from time locks , welfare breaks , loops and if done properly your manuel adjustments will reduce your delivery span o 3:5 hours actual walking.
if you decide not to get involved you will likely have walks which don't work and a failing revison.
You should have had a start up revison meeting where this should have been explained to you.
In terms of geo route every walking duty holder should be called first to identify all their addresses on their walk , this is called Sid and Sarah , there should be packet counts per walk , call rate counts , redirection counts .
In terms of the spans which geo route throw up they may well throw up a 4 hour walk but then you meant to put in the manuel adjustments from time locks , welfare breaks , loops and if done properly your manuel adjustments will reduce your delivery span o 3:5 hours actual walking.
if you decide not to get involved you will likely have walks which don't work and a failing revison.
You should have had a start up revison meeting where this should have been explained to you.
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POSTMAN
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- Joined: 07 Aug 2006, 03:19
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Re: Our Revision
So what happens to the 30mins of calls lost?In terms of the spans which geo route throw up they may well throw up a 4 hour walk but then you meant to put in the manuel adjustments from time locks , welfare breaks , loops and if done properly your manuel adjustments will reduce your delivery span o 3:5 hours actual walking.
And couldn't they go the other way to 4-30?
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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DGP1
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- Location: Terminus
Re: Our Revision
We did that..............the planners just ignored it and put in their own figures.........which was the same for every duty, so how can we even trust them?In terms of geo route every walking duty holder should be called first to identify all their addresses on their walk , this is called Sid and Sarah , there should be packet counts per walk , call rate counts , redirection counts .
Not forgetting that they wont come into our office anymore because someone was 'rude' to them.
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Martin Walsh
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- Location: neverland
Re: Our Revision
yes Postman if the walk is 4 hours and you reduce that by 30 minutes due to manuel adjustments you still need to deliver to the remaining addresses so it creates more hours in the office. equally at the end of the day the tools only get you part of the way Negotations on both the indoor and outdoor should take place.
Timelocks in London are a massive issue which has created lots of extra hours in offices. Most of the walks in East London have had 40 minutes of manuel adjustments introduced.
Timelocks in London are a massive issue which has created lots of extra hours in offices. Most of the walks in East London have had 40 minutes of manuel adjustments introduced.
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maisymoo04
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- Location: You dont want to no
Re: Our Revision
no what really scares me apart from my wife
we have had the revision in for 2 years now and reading stuff like this what the f@@@ is goin on

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k979aaa
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- Location: THE NORTH
Re: Our Revision
Time locks our adjustments is don't deliver it till the next day we had our revision two years ago due for another we are going to get butt fu@ked this time.dingo wrote:yes Postman if the walk is 4 hours and you reduce that by 30 minutes due to manuel adjustments you still need to deliver to the remaining addresses so it creates more hours in the office. equally at the end of the day the tools only get you part of the way Negotations on both the indoor and outdoor should take place.
Timelocks in London are a massive issue which has created lots of extra hours in offices. Most of the walks in East London have had 40 minutes of manuel adjustments introduced.