Christmas 2012 - RM to recruit and pay directly

philw · Post by **philw** » 03 Aug 2012, 12:48

I've received a 'postcard' in the post this morning which states.....

"...Christmas is an extremely important time for Royal Mail and so are the people who work for us. Last year we used a third party supplier for the vital role of recruiting and paying people. To improve the experience for people who join us, Royal Mail will both recruit and pay our Christmas casual employees directly for Christmas 2012 (my highlighting)......."

Post by **m10lsy** » 03 Aug 2012, 13:22

can anyway clarify this as angard have been calling me in ref to the xmas recruitment drive this year?

john0745 · Post by **john0745** » 03 Aug 2012, 13:55

i recieved one also.
and as stated in the first post.. "royal mail will recruit and pay directly".

wamdue · Post by **wamdue** » 03 Aug 2012, 14:08

im sure we have all received the same thing, so I can confirm this as well.

Based on this, I will apply.

Leonard69 · Post by **Leonard69** » 03 Aug 2012, 14:58

This could refer to the staff who were recruited under Manpower last year. Don't forget that Angard is a wholly owned subsidiary of RMG so it would be possible to say that RMG are doing it directly yet still use Angard. If Angard are still involved now what makes anyone think that they won't be come Christmas? and this particular leopard definitely won't change its spots... you have been warned.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 03 Aug 2012, 15:00

As an outsider could it be that they'll be dropping the other agencies like Manpower who seemed to be at least partially culpable from the posts you Angardies put up.

fishtank · Post by **fishtank** » 03 Aug 2012, 15:03

Royal Mail will not be using Angard to specifically recruit Christmas temps this year however Angard will be continuing to recruit for the "flexible pool" even during the Christmas period.

Leonard69 · Post by **Leonard69** » 03 Aug 2012, 16:48

Do you think they signed a long term contract with Angard then that would cost too much to get out of 'cos it seems pretty odd to "keep a dog and bark yourself" which is what doing their own Xmas recruiting amounts to if Angard are still being used by them for other posts.

Britvic55 · Post by **Britvic55** » 03 Aug 2012, 18:52

Ditto. I applied at Easter, when I got the previous card. Now I notice that on the back of the envelope that contained the card, it states, If undelivered please return to Romec Print & Mail @ Birmingham Mail centre. Now I know that RM own Romec........?

Post by **littlelegsdad1** » 04 Aug 2012, 17:39

I got one too.

After last year with Angard, I was pretty sure I would not be back this year - which is a shame as I really enjoyed working at the outhouse in Norwich.

I am tempted being as the card has stated that it will be Royal Mail recruiting and paying us this year.... I do agree with the other user who suggest the thing about leopads and spots... now its a case of buggered if I do, and buggered if I don't.

I have applied and am going to wait and see before signing up for anything.

Larzoapso · Post by **Larzoapso** » 05 Aug 2012, 09:35

I too received a card a few days ago and have been online and pre-registered.

I have to say that I enjoyed last year's role at the MDEC in Cheadle and didn't experience any problems with Angard atall. Got paid OK etc. and met a good bunch of people.

I had to reclaim the income tax they deducted in the April though despite completing a form they gave me at the beginning which should have got me paid gross of any tax as it was my only job that tax year.

kezz · Post by **kezz** » 05 Aug 2012, 09:59

I too received a card, but after having to take them to tribuneral to get what was owed to me, after seeing lazy shirkers who did little to no work get a bonus when I worked damn hard and didnt, and after seeing shamgard still making the same mistakes over their continued involvement - I have decided that I am not going back to SOMC. I dont believe it will be like the years prior to shamgards involvement, and I dont feel it will be fair to those still trying to get paid week in week out by shamgard either.
But Im lucky enough to have a secure and stable job that means I dont have a monetary gap to fill this year, for the first time in many years - So I also understand and simpithise with those who will go back.

Good Luck one and all!!!!!

casxmasual · Post by **casxmasual** » 05 Aug 2012, 10:17

Post by **guitar-mike** » 05 Aug 2012, 10:24

Hi guys, haven't posted for a long time! I too got the postcard, however I'm fortunate enough to be in employment so I won't be applying for a position with RM this year. I'm glad that (hopefully) RM will be handling the recruitment/payment, so good luck to everyone who applies!

Even if I were seeking a job, I'd be extremely cautious about taking up work with RM again. To my knowledge, RM didn't (and still haven't) fully acknowledged what happened with Angard last year. We might have received our pay, but we shouldn't have had to spend weeks fighting for it, and I've yet to see any form of apology. Still, I hope all who apply have a smooth ride!

Post by **AngDrone** » 05 Aug 2012, 10:28

Well, I followed the instructions on the card, got to the RM Jobs site where all my RM applications are logged.

The message read:
Thank you for your interest in working for us over the 2012 Christmas period. To register your details please click the 'Apply' button below.
"Please note: You will be asked to formally apply once our Chrsitmas recruitment campaign commences."

So I clicked "apply now" and then this message came up:
"Unfortunately, the position you are attempting to apply for is no longer available."

So, I understand I have to wait until the positions are formally advertised in September, but am I pre-registered or not?

AngDrone

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