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Ditching the LWT - how close are we nationally...
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Mr Rush
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Re: Ditching the LWT - how close are we nationally...
Never. There's no way I'd go back to carrying 16kg bags. I just wish more of my P&L walk was suited for the LWT (first half is all closes).
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IloveMYredTROLLEY!
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Re: Ditching the LWT - how close are we nationally...
About as close as we to seeing planners and mangers confess their wonderful prediction tool is wrong and so post- delivery methods depot walks around the country will be reduced in size.
... Roll on the heavy months, posties using equipment properly can safely leave ~25% of the mail now in mid summer and still struggle to finish on time!
... Roll on the heavy months, posties using equipment properly can safely leave ~25% of the mail now in mid summer and still struggle to finish on time!
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daveyeff
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Re: Ditching the LWT - how close are we nationally...
aye, its supposed to be ''factory fortnight'' as well, which is when the mail is supposed to be the lowest of the year,,,,there was duties handing back left right and centre today. lapsing failed, parcels and packets stood down. no wonder the doms lost the plot. he looked like a broken man today, and the office is like a tinderbox at the moment with all the bother going on. cant WAAAAIT for the ''eruption'' 
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spilie
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ok moan groan and whinge but do nothing about it, same old same old, what do you mean rm police most posties only think of number 1 so it is up to the reps to force them to use the equipment thus saving jobs, if you cant see that then forget it
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fishtank
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I agree with you spilie.spilie wrote:so it is up to the reps to force them to use the equipment thus saving jobs, if you cant see that then forget it
When you take on the reps job you sign up to the CWU's Statement of Values one of which is to achieve security of employment for all members,turning a bind eye to bad practice because you are scared of confrontation is no excuse,support from those above is needed of course but the lack of it shouldn't be an excuse for a local rep to do nothing even if he/she feels like they are getting nowhere.
I understand the frustration completely and if you want to give up fine but you might as well give up being a rep at the same time.
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spilie
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thanks fishtank didnt mean give up, just meant ...... ah well you know what i mean. Just frustrating when the professional moaners are asked to put thier head above the parapit they all of a sudden go quiet, a bit like me uncle the war hero who was shot in the back advancing
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dvbuk55
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Re: Ditching the LWT - how close are we nationally...
Not unusual if you were advancing in front of our american allies.spilie wrote:thanks fishtank didnt mean give up, just meant ...... ah well you know what i mean. Just frustrating when the professional moaners are asked to put thier head above the parapit they all of a sudden go quiet, a bit like me uncle the war hero who was shot in the back advancing
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Re: Ditching the LWT - how close are we nationally...
Spray and pray (and its not a porn innuendo)dvbuk55 wrote:Not unusual if you were advancing in front of our american allies.spilie wrote:thanks fishtank didnt mean give up, just meant ...... ah well you know what i mean. Just frustrating when the professional moaners are asked to put thier head above the parapit they all of a sudden go quiet, a bit like me uncle the war hero who was shot in the back advancing
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Re: Ditching the LWT - how close are we nationally...
Me, sub rep and H&S keep on trying to get members to use the LWT, but we're getting nowhere, even the Area rep is having trouble in his office, OPG, just don't understand the problems that are building from not using the kit and doing the job properly. They moan like s**t about a bit of lapsing, but still expect/want to finish 30-60 minutes early every day. It's a nightmare really, you just can't help some people!!
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Lateagainpostie
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Re: Ditching the LWT - how close are we nationally...
Our Posite is supposed to use one, but it's joined the 30 or 40 others dumped in york at the DO, when I asked him where his was, he reckoned no-one is using them.
Management don't care because the mail is getting delivered.
The crunch will come when these guys start taking time off for a bad back and RM refuse to pay them because they are not working according to the correct deliver methods, especially if they claim a back injury at work.
It's only a matter of time.
Management don't care because the mail is getting delivered.
The crunch will come when these guys start taking time off for a bad back and RM refuse to pay them because they are not working according to the correct deliver methods, especially if they claim a back injury at work.
It's only a matter of time.
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happymackem
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Re: Ditching the LWT - how close are we nationally...
take time of for a bad back hey man i have used a bag for 40 years and i aint got a bad back if your sensible there is no need to use overweight bags.you must belive everything the gormless gets tell youLateagainpostie wrote:Our Posite is supposed to use one, but it's joined the 30 or 40 others dumped in york at the DO, when I asked him where his was, he reckoned no-one is using them.
Management don't care because the mail is getting delivered.
The crunch will come when these guys start taking time off for a bad back and RM refuse to pay them because they are not working according to the correct deliver methods, especially if they claim a back injury at work.
It's only a matter of time.
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fishtank
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Re: Ditching the LWT - how close are we nationally...
That's a sample group of exactly one mackem,there are plenty others with knee,back and shoulder problems down to carrying bags for years,not overweight bags...just normal bags.happymackem wrote: take time of for a bad back hey man i have used a bag for 40 years and i aint got a bad back if your sensible there is no need to use overweight bags.you must belive everything the gormless gets tell you
The human body is not designed well to carry anything never mind bags...it's a two legged,high centre of gravity thing.
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skull
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Re: Ditching the LWT - how close are we nationally...
happymackem wrote:take time of for a bad back hey man i have used a bag for 40 years and i aint got a bad back if your sensible there is no need to use overweight bags.you must belive everything the gormless gets tell youLateagainpostie wrote:Our Posite is supposed to use one, but it's joined the 30 or 40 others dumped in york at the DO, when I asked him where his was, he reckoned no-one is using them.
Management don't care because the mail is getting delivered.
The crunch will come when these guys start taking time off for a bad back and RM refuse to pay them because they are not working according to the correct deliver methods, especially if they claim a back injury at work.
It's only a matter of time.
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ballee
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Re: Ditching the LWT - how close are we nationally...
Davy what part of the country are you in.daveyeff wrote:aye, its supposed to be ''factory fortnight'' as well, which is when the mail is supposed to be the lowest of the year,,,,there was duties handing back left right and centre today. lapsing failed, parcels and packets stood down. no wonder the doms lost the plot. he looked like a broken man today, and the office is like a tinderbox at the moment with all the bother going on. cant WAAAAIT for the ''eruption''
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daveyeff
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Re: Ditching the LWT - how close are we nationally...
toon toon,,,black n white armyballee wrote:Davy what part of the country are you in.daveyeff wrote:aye, its supposed to be ''factory fortnight'' as well, which is when the mail is supposed to be the lowest of the year,,,,there was duties handing back left right and centre today. lapsing failed, parcels and packets stood down. no wonder the doms lost the plot. he looked like a broken man today, and the office is like a tinderbox at the moment with all the bother going on. cant WAAAAIT for the ''eruption''