PARCEL COUNT

[briantwigley]

Depends how you 'attend' to the parcel... Everyone round here leaves front doors open so its in and out quicker than if I was using the letterbox.

[islfor]

according to the system tool on packet allowances it reads : packets 0.53secs heavy & large 3.00mins & S/D 3.00mins

per item sorry

3mins? Do you mean delivering them or something else?

ATTENDACE CALL TIMES.
(These times are shown here for information only and are included in the ‘Calling Time’ parameters.)
seconds
2.3
Successful attendance call – packet
25.6
2.4
Successful attendance call – signature on card
58.6
2.5
Successful attendance call – signature on PDA
52.9
2.6
Successful attendance call – PDA no signature
37.0
2.7
Unsuccessful attendance call - packet
60.4
2.8
Unsuccessful attendance call – signature on card
78.4
2.9
Unsuccessful attendance call - PDA
78.3

I attended the new Stimulation at Gatwick last week, where it was done by an outside consultancy, who have been paid vast amount of money to transform delivery offices.
In attendance was RM best DOM in transforming offices that are struggling to change, he actually believes that we need to be tortoises and not hares. I thought he was a CWU rep how he reacted to our questions.
I have a folder with RM planning values for delivering packets, h&l, s/d, recordeds & tracked..........remember your heavy & large & special deliveries need to be locked in the back of a van at all times, not left in LWT or HCT unattended.
3 minutes given for H&L & S/D per item.

[Himaggen]

ATTENDACE CALL TIMES.
(These times are shown here for information only and are included in the ‘Calling Time’ parameters.)
seconds
2.3
Successful attendance call – packet
25.6
2.4
Successful attendance call – signature on card
58.6
2.5
Successful attendance call – signature on PDA
52.9
2.6
Successful attendance call – PDA no signature
37.0
2.7
Unsuccessful attendance call - packet
60.4
2.8
Unsuccessful attendance call – signature on card
78.4
2.9
Unsuccessful attendance call - PDA
78.3

Something stands out to me regarding those figures; What is the point in the massive cost of supply, running and maintenance of the PDAs.

Taking a single duty as part of a van share with 500 delivery points and using a worst case scenario of each attendance call requiring a signature here are the 'informational' timings.
Using card. 15 x 58.6 + 5 x 78.4 = 1271 seconds
Using PDA. 15 x 52.9 + 5 x 78.3 = 1185 seconds
Difference 1271 - 1185 = 86 seconds

As you can see the best time saving offered for this extreme scenario over two identical, though tiny, 500 delivery point duties on a shared van is less than 3 minutes. Surely the costs for this minimal time saved does not outweigh the outlay.

[clashcityrocker]

The PDA is to provide immediate transmission of information.
With an EPOD card that information can only be relayed once the card is back in the hands of the PHG and then sent onwards for scanning for proof of signature to be available online.

[mandelsons_toenail]

as im doing my georoute stuff as we speak, and i can tell you an oversize item

stuff that bike rounds would put out for vans

gives 2 minutes per item

Lovely

[shepherdess]

Questioned parcel count planner just gave me blank look. How are you supposed to get it right if all they are worried about is saving money

[shepherdess]

[so what this says is that s/d items cannot be left in an unattended hct
(NOT WHAT WE ARE BEING TOLD TO DO)
I have a folder with RM planning values for delivering packets, h&l, s/d, recordeds & tracked..........remember your heavy & large & special deliveries need to be locked in the back of a van at all times, not left in LWT or HCT unattended.
3 minutes given for H&L & S/D per item.[/quote]

[POSTMAN]

So,if what i'm reading is right,you have the packets that can be taken out with a trolley (one set of figures for delivery/non delivery ect)and you have the 'large' packets that the old van drivers used to do,another set of figures.

So how the hell would you work out all the different variations for a revision?

[arnold cheshire]

Before the new walks are planned you should count the number of attendance calls per road everyday for a week. The planners should then use this data in planning the new walks.

yes we have done this now for a fourth time its getting well annoying

[fishtank]

So,if what i'm reading is right,you have the packets that can be taken out with a trolley (one set of figures for delivery/non delivery ect)and you have the 'large' packets that the old van drivers used to do,another set of figures.

So how the hell would you work out all the different variations for a revision?

Attendance call times for a dedicated packet duty are obviously greater than park&loop because they include travelling time between delivery points.
3 minutes per packet is 20 packets per hour which has pretty much been the standard for as long as i can remember.
The only thing is....i thought the idea was to get rid of dedicated packet duties.....