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Discrimination? What do you think?
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Pat Ostman
- Posts: 2797
- Joined: 17 Sep 2008, 21:53
- Gender: Male
- Location: In the Line Managers office being screwed over.
Re: Discrimination? What do you think?
Toastie please keep us informed all the way
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And when at last the work is done. Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one
And when at last the work is done. Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one
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walkertom
- Posts: 52
- Joined: 02 Mar 2011, 09:19
- Gender: Male
- Location: The Wild West
Re: Discrimination? What do you think?
Hi there,
Sounds like a good argument for failure to make a reasonable adjustment.
Remember the 3-month time-limit for a tribunal case. You'll be able to smell a rat if there's any delaying tactics that just happen by coincidence. You can fill in the ET1 online. Get the proper advice through the union, or CAB might be worth a try.
Good luck,
Sounds like a good argument for failure to make a reasonable adjustment.
Remember the 3-month time-limit for a tribunal case. You'll be able to smell a rat if there's any delaying tactics that just happen by coincidence. You can fill in the ET1 online. Get the proper advice through the union, or CAB might be worth a try.
Good luck,
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toastie
- Posts: 140
- Joined: 26 Jan 2011, 21:57
- Gender: Female
Re: Discrimination? What do you think?
Thank you all - I have emailed Linda, have a meeting with rep and manager Thurs, and Pat yes I will, just watch this space lol - Still any more opinions appreciated.
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music4essex
- Posts: 717
- Joined: 15 Oct 2009, 16:18
- Gender: Female
Re: Discrimination? What do you think?
Good luck with the meeting I have been going through the self same thing for over a year with my dom
Make sure everything is written down as my manager even chnaged the agreement after we had concluded what was to be delivered
Also make sure what you say you can do, as they will use the same geo route against you and I have noticed it is way out to what you can achieve .
Dont get fobbed off with they cannot make adjustments as they can it just needs thinking ou the box which RM managers are unable to do.
I am on a 3hr delivery this means I can only walk for 3hrs but at present I am made to stay in to do dead letters for an hour before going out on delivery, maybe if you drive you could do part drive and part walk.
on the negative side I have been made to go over my time most days as dom would not agree delivery span only what geo route says and this has made me go over most days, If i cutt off I am then threatend with IHR so I have been putting everything down in a diary each day, But this will be used soon whan I have a meeting before I pick my next duty as we are going through a revision based only on geo route should be interesting times.
Keep us informed of what goes on in the meeting I had the disability champion on two of my meetings nad are manages and reps, it is quite stressful but hang in there
Essex mum
Make sure everything is written down as my manager even chnaged the agreement after we had concluded what was to be delivered
Also make sure what you say you can do, as they will use the same geo route against you and I have noticed it is way out to what you can achieve .
Dont get fobbed off with they cannot make adjustments as they can it just needs thinking ou the box which RM managers are unable to do.
I am on a 3hr delivery this means I can only walk for 3hrs but at present I am made to stay in to do dead letters for an hour before going out on delivery, maybe if you drive you could do part drive and part walk.
on the negative side I have been made to go over my time most days as dom would not agree delivery span only what geo route says and this has made me go over most days, If i cutt off I am then threatend with IHR so I have been putting everything down in a diary each day, But this will be used soon whan I have a meeting before I pick my next duty as we are going through a revision based only on geo route should be interesting times.
Keep us informed of what goes on in the meeting I had the disability champion on two of my meetings nad are manages and reps, it is quite stressful but hang in there
Essex mum
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whymenow
- Posts: 8
- Joined: 01 Jul 2012, 09:30
- Gender: Female
Re: Discrimination? What do you think?
I would just like to add that with your doctor and atos saying that you would qualify to be covered under the equality act that you will be fine and royal mail will make reasonable adjustment. But if your office is like the one that i work in it will be the postman that you work with that will be the problem
there are two in my office and the harassment that they receive from the staff is outrages.It makes me ashamed that they are part of the union you just wonder if they even realize what being part of union is
there are two in my office and the harassment that they receive from the staff is outrages.It makes me ashamed that they are part of the union you just wonder if they even realize what being part of union is
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ninja
- Posts: 193
- Joined: 08 Sep 2010, 20:16
- Gender: Male
Re: Discrimination? What do you think?
Not much to add, but yes this is a case of discrimination.
You should have had an I.R.A (individual risk assement) and if you had or are going through a D.M revision then this should have been picked by the 121's.
The next debate would be around the reasonable adjustment requirements, but in my unit I have two people performing walks with the assistance of a third person due to resonable adjustment under the equality act.
Also don't forget you have the use of the DAC:
Below is there statement of Disabled employees.
Disability Action Centre (DAC)
fact sheet
Disability Discrimination Act 1995 (DDA)
Rights and responsibilities
Did you know?
• There are over 9 million disabled people in the UK.
• Eighteen per cent of the working age population are disabled.
• These figures are increasing.
• Seven out of ten disabled people in employment acquire their disability during their working lives.
• Fewer than five per cent of disabled people are wheelchair users.
Under the Disability Discrimination Act 1995 (DDA) employees, job applicants and customers who are disabled, or who have had a disability, have the right not to be discriminated against because of their disability.
Royal Mail responsibilities
• To ensure fair and proper treatment of disabled applicants, employees and customers.
• Not to discriminate against disabled people.
• To make all services and products which are available to the public accessible to disabled customers as is reasonably possible, which includes the need to make reasonable adjustments to services, products and premises ('services') to ensure that disabled customers are not unfairly prevented from accessing them.
• To make reasonable adjustments to aspects of employment, when the need arises for disabled people.
• To treat as an offence the harassment or victimisation of anybody who supports their own or another's rights under the DDA.
Royal Mail Disability Helpline Telephone: 0114 241 4731 Fax: 0114 241 4534
Calls are welcome through RNID Typetalk and BT Text Direct
Email: dac@royalmail.com Website: http://www.royalmail.com/dac" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Royal Mail is a trading name of Royal Mail Group plc. Registered number 4138203.
Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: 148 Old Street, LONDON, EC1V 9HQ
Individual responsibilities
To inform your line manager, personnel or seek advice from the Royal Mail Disability Helpline if you think you have a disability which may benefit from reasonable adjustments.
• To co-operate to ensure the implementation of any reasonable adjustments when the need arises.
• To inform your line manager, personnel or seek advice from the Royal Mail Disability Helpline if you are aware of discrimination, harassment or victimisation taking place.
• Not to harass or victimise anybody who supports their own or another's rights under the DDA.
• Harassment, victimisation or discrimination of anybody on the grounds of his/her disability will not be tolerated and any breach of the above duties may result in action under the conduct procedure.
Resolving problems
• Most problems are likely to be solved amicably through consultation and a common sense approach.
• If you feel you have been discriminated against, it is our intention to remedy the situation as fairly and as quickly as possible.
• Where it is not possible to resolve the problem informally, formal grievance procedures are available.
• In the unlikely event that internal procedures fail to resolve the situation, individuals have the right to seek information, advice and redress externally.
Where to seek help and advice:
Line Manager; Personnel; Union; Disability Helpline; Employee Health Service (EHS)
Whilst we endeavour to ensure the accuracy of information given in this fact sheet, it is intended for guidance only. Inclusion of supplier/organisation details does not imply Royal Mail Group plc approval. Any prices/terms/conditions must be confirmed direct with service provider.
If you require this fact sheet in an alternative format, please contact the DAC via:
Royal Mail Disability Helpline Telephone: 0114 241 4731 Fax: 0114 241 4534
Calls are welcome through RNID Typetalk and BT Text Direct
Email: dac@royalmail.com Website: http://www.royalmail.com/dac" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Royal Mail is a trading name of Royal Mail Group plc. Registered number 4138203.
Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: 148 Old Street, LONDON, EC1V 9HQ
You should have had an I.R.A (individual risk assement) and if you had or are going through a D.M revision then this should have been picked by the 121's.
The next debate would be around the reasonable adjustment requirements, but in my unit I have two people performing walks with the assistance of a third person due to resonable adjustment under the equality act.
Also don't forget you have the use of the DAC:
Below is there statement of Disabled employees.
Disability Action Centre (DAC)
fact sheet
Disability Discrimination Act 1995 (DDA)
Rights and responsibilities
Did you know?
• There are over 9 million disabled people in the UK.
• Eighteen per cent of the working age population are disabled.
• These figures are increasing.
• Seven out of ten disabled people in employment acquire their disability during their working lives.
• Fewer than five per cent of disabled people are wheelchair users.
Under the Disability Discrimination Act 1995 (DDA) employees, job applicants and customers who are disabled, or who have had a disability, have the right not to be discriminated against because of their disability.
Royal Mail responsibilities
• To ensure fair and proper treatment of disabled applicants, employees and customers.
• Not to discriminate against disabled people.
• To make all services and products which are available to the public accessible to disabled customers as is reasonably possible, which includes the need to make reasonable adjustments to services, products and premises ('services') to ensure that disabled customers are not unfairly prevented from accessing them.
• To make reasonable adjustments to aspects of employment, when the need arises for disabled people.
• To treat as an offence the harassment or victimisation of anybody who supports their own or another's rights under the DDA.
Royal Mail Disability Helpline Telephone: 0114 241 4731 Fax: 0114 241 4534
Calls are welcome through RNID Typetalk and BT Text Direct
Email: dac@royalmail.com Website: http://www.royalmail.com/dac" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
page 1 of 2 (issue 06.2005)
Royal Mail is a trading name of Royal Mail Group plc. Registered number 4138203.
Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: 148 Old Street, LONDON, EC1V 9HQ
Individual responsibilities
To inform your line manager, personnel or seek advice from the Royal Mail Disability Helpline if you think you have a disability which may benefit from reasonable adjustments.
• To co-operate to ensure the implementation of any reasonable adjustments when the need arises.
• To inform your line manager, personnel or seek advice from the Royal Mail Disability Helpline if you are aware of discrimination, harassment or victimisation taking place.
• Not to harass or victimise anybody who supports their own or another's rights under the DDA.
• Harassment, victimisation or discrimination of anybody on the grounds of his/her disability will not be tolerated and any breach of the above duties may result in action under the conduct procedure.
Resolving problems
• Most problems are likely to be solved amicably through consultation and a common sense approach.
• If you feel you have been discriminated against, it is our intention to remedy the situation as fairly and as quickly as possible.
• Where it is not possible to resolve the problem informally, formal grievance procedures are available.
• In the unlikely event that internal procedures fail to resolve the situation, individuals have the right to seek information, advice and redress externally.
Where to seek help and advice:
Line Manager; Personnel; Union; Disability Helpline; Employee Health Service (EHS)
Whilst we endeavour to ensure the accuracy of information given in this fact sheet, it is intended for guidance only. Inclusion of supplier/organisation details does not imply Royal Mail Group plc approval. Any prices/terms/conditions must be confirmed direct with service provider.
If you require this fact sheet in an alternative format, please contact the DAC via:
Royal Mail Disability Helpline Telephone: 0114 241 4731 Fax: 0114 241 4534
Calls are welcome through RNID Typetalk and BT Text Direct
Email: dac@royalmail.com Website: http://www.royalmail.com/dac" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
page 2 of 2 (issue 06.2005)
Royal Mail is a trading name of Royal Mail Group plc. Registered number 4138203.
Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: 148 Old Street, LONDON, EC1V 9HQ