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P&L

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DGP1
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Re: P&L

Post by DGP1 »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
sickofthejob wrote:thought i read somewhere on here it was between 5 and 10 oversize parcels.
No the problem is if the 2 duty holders of a P&L duty don't take all packets - there isn't a driving duty to sweep up the oversize like there was before P&L.

The idea of P&L is that all packets and tracked items for their duties are taken out. If the packet is too big for the walking man of the pair then the designated driver should deliver it. As far as I know this is allowed for in the Driver having slightly smaller loops.
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wookie
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Re: P&L

Post by wookie »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote: As far as I know this is allowed for in the Driver having slightly smaller loops.
In theory, but when the drivers loop has a more than usual number of knocks then that loop becomes longer to deliver than the passengers. The only way that will work is if the driver & passenger exchange loops on a daily basis (passenger delivering to more addresses). There is no way anyone can plan for the amount of packets each loop gets.
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Re: P&L

Post by eastie »

wookie wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote: As far as I know this is allowed for in the Driver having slightly smaller loops.
In theory, but when the drivers loop has a more than usual number of knocks then that loop becomes longer to deliver than the passengers. The only way that will work is if the driver & passenger exchange loops on a daily basis (passenger delivering to more addresses). There is no way anyone can plan for the amount of packets each loop gets.
We know that but try telling the Dom that.
He thinks the driver finishes all his loops 5 minutes before the walker :left: and then delivers the 4 large Parcels from the 2 loops in the 5 minutes extra :left:
fishtank
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Re: P&L

Post by fishtank »

I'm with you.
I really don't get the issue.
If you don't have time for the big packets or anything else for that matter...take it back or don't take it out to start with.
If the loops are out of sync...enjoy the break and swap it around the next day.
If you're out with someone slow...enjoy the easy day,help if you can,don't if it bothers you that much.
Do it by the book,do it their way and don't get stressed.
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cinemasaint
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Re: P&L

Post by cinemasaint »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
sickofthejob wrote:thought i read somewhere on here it was between 5 and 10 oversize parcels.
No the problem is if the 2 duty holders of a P&L duty don't take all packets - there isn't a driving duty to sweep up the oversize like there was before P&L.

The idea of P&L is that all packets and tracked items for their duties are taken out. If the packet is too big for the walking man of the pair then the designated driver should deliver it. As far as I know this is allowed for in the Driver having slightly smaller loops.

Not on my walk 21 mins between 2 walks to do all oversized oh by the way planners don't care if you have issues
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Re: P&L

Post by Hitcher »

whatamess!! wrote:The guidance is 17 attendance calls per 500 delivery points, if your walks are getting more than this they need to be manually adjusted at phase 3.
We bring back more than that some days.