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Bullying on the rise since revision

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Brandy
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Re: Bullying on the rise since revision

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spoodoo wrote:We've lost 12postman in the last 3months ,all sick of the bullying and harassment ,many of whom had very long service. All replaced with part timers or nothing at all ,every duty of there's replaced to part time. All we hear is the mails down ,swings and roundabouts, performance issues,yer all crap at you're jobs,you're getting timed etc etc. nothing about all the full time staff and sorters we've lost . Also trying to sack ppl for minor incidents,wtf is the union , Dave ward my subs are gonna soon be spent on a nice cold beer instead of wasting it on you .
When will those at the top and the managers get it into their heads that the better you treat people the more work you get out of them. By bullying and intimidating us all you do is put our backs up , our morale is on the floor and in the end a job perhaps you used to love you couldnt give a toss about anymore.How sad is that! :sad: :sad: :sad:
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Re: Bullying on the rise since revision

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Lounge Lizard wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
Superfly wrote: The CWU should be ashamed of the way they have neglected this issue, are they going to wait until we have had the tragedy of a member topping themselves because they've had enough before they say enough is enough,
Regretfully there is already one story from Oct 2010 on RMC about 3 posties at Enfield committing suicide http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 18&t=30551" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sadly suicides amongst posties, whatever the underlying cause, is not unknown:

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... de#p215108" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; 'Friendly' postie found dead near Gower beauty spot
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... de#p226563" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Big turnout for funeral of popular postman
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... ide#p96547" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Postman 'killed himself after money worries'
Others too. The Enfield thread mentions that "The body of a sixth suspected suicide victim in the space of a year has been found in a Staffordshire village. Carpenter Terry Ball, 35, was found hanged at his home in Gnosall on Sunday. The sequence of deaths began when POSTMAN Craig Parsons, 40, was found hanged in December last year." :sad:
This is so sad it doesnt help when you get bullied at work the bosses should all hang their heads in shame
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Re: Bullying on the rise since revision

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Brandy wrote: When will those at the top and the managers get it into their heads that the better you treat people the more work you get out of them. By bullying and intimidating us all you do is put our backs up , our morale is on the floor and in the end a job perhaps you used to love you couldnt give a toss about anymore.How sad is that! :sad: :sad: :sad:
POSTMAN EDIT:BELIAL,FOR CHRISTS SAKE!
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Lounge Lizard
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Re: Bullying on the rise since revision

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BELIAL wrote:
Brandy wrote: When will those at the top and the managers get it into their heads that the better you treat people the more work you get out of them. By bullying and intimidating us all you do is put our backs up , our morale is on the floor and in the end a job perhaps you used to love you couldnt give a toss about anymore.How sad is that! :sad: :sad: :sad:
POSTMAN EDIT:BELIAL,FOR CHRISTS SAKE!

Are you seriously suggesting that ? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: Bullying on the rise since revision

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obviously he was seriously suggesting such a course of action in a public forum, no doubt as a ruse to throw any ensuing investigation off the scent by implicating anyone who read it. machiavellian genius.
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Re: Bullying on the rise since revision

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Postman Plodd wrote:obviously he was seriously suggesting such a course of action in a public forum, no doubt as a ruse to throw any ensuing investigation off the scent by implicating anyone who read it. machiavellian genius.
I'm worried. :shock: Not only did I read it, but I replied to it, and I still clearly remember what he suggested. :shock: I'm doomed. :sad:
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Re: Bullying on the rise since revision

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I read the cases as reported and, although sad, none of the cases were attributed to B&H. :neutral:
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Re: Bullying on the rise since revision

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Sorry must have been thinking out loud, did it involve safety pins and a mango? :oops:
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Lounge Lizard
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Re: Bullying on the rise since revision

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BELIAL wrote:Sorry must have been thinking out loud, did it involve safety pins and a mango? :oops:
Certainly not :shock: and I'm puzzled how safety pins and a mango could result in a lengthy jail sentance. :crazy:
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Re: Bullying on the rise since revision

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The reason for the increase in bullying by managers is they know they can get away with it! If a manager accuses you of threatening or abusive behaviour his word is unquestioned yet if you complain about a manager he is investigated by fellow managers who are not going to blame there fellow colleagues.
I could name many times where managers have openly lied through there back teeth without hesitating to think of the consequences for the accused postie. Lets face it most managers are inept and useless at managing staff so resort to threats and bullying to cover there own backs, i/e if a new way of working goes well and makes its targets its down to good managament, but if it goes wrong its down to lazy postmen/women not doing there job .
Of course you can see your local rep about it if you can drag them out of hiding! :mad
mad north west
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Re: Bullying on the rise since revision

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Lounge Lizard wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
Superfly wrote: The CWU should be ashamed of the way they have neglected this issue, are they going to wait until we have had the tragedy of a member topping themselves because they've had enough before they say enough is enough,
Regretfully there is already one story from Oct 2010 on RMC about 3 posties at Enfield committing suicide http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 18&t=30551" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sadly suicides amongst posties, whatever the underlying cause, is not unknown:

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... de#p215108" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; 'Friendly' postie found dead near Gower beauty spot
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... de#p226563" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Big turnout for funeral of popular postman
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... ide#p96547" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Postman 'killed himself after money worries'
Others too. The Enfield thread mentions that "The body of a sixth suspected suicide victim in the space of a year has been found in a Staffordshire village. Carpenter Terry Ball, 35, was found hanged at his home in Gnosall on Sunday. The sequence of deaths began when POSTMAN Craig Parsons, 40, was found hanged in December last year." :sad:
There has been a few in the ST area. A couple of them made it known that their work life was where they had their problem, typically management did nothing to help ease their stress, if fact quiet the opposite. :evil/mad
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Re: Bullying on the rise since revision

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ronliv wrote:The reason for the increase in bullying by managers is they know they can get away with it! If a manager accuses you of threatening or abusive behaviour his word is unquestioned yet if you complain about a manager he is investigated by fellow managers who are not going to blame there fellow colleagues.
I could name many times where managers have openly lied through there back teeth without hesitating to think of the consequences for the accused postie. Lets face it most managers are inept and useless at managing staff so resort to threats and bullying to cover there own backs, i/e if a new way of working goes well and makes its targets its down to good managament, but if it goes wrong its down to lazy postmen/women not doing there job .
Of course you can see your local rep about it if you can drag them out of hiding! :mad
You couldnt have put it better . The biggest bullies are the biggest cowards the managers are getting bullied by those above them and they are darent stick up to them for fear of their own jobs . :no no :no no