For those who are wavering

[Jonboy]

proud to be a member of CWU For ever

[armani]

I know that there are those who think that the union is misguided and feel that strikes will acheive little. I know there are those who cannot afford to lose money.
But i ask that you consider this:
If the union, which is us collectively, were to lose this dispute do you think Royal Mail would stop with these proposals?
When i started with RM all overtime was paid at double time after 12 hours.
There were no households.
If you had a big delivery you had at most two pouches!
Sick pay was paid to everyone, including new entrants!
My pension was SECURE!
I didn't get rung up at home to check on my 'welfare' regarding sickness!
Royal mail's aim is not only to get its way for this 'round' but to complete a knockout against the cwu. Then it really can begin its real agenda and who knows what that is?
Mail centres competing against each other?
Franchise deliveries with the franchise holder responsible for sick and leave coverage?
It could even get really riddiculous:
Postman paid for delivery by pouch weight!
STAND BY YOUR UNION, IF IT LOSES THE RACE TO THE BOTTOM STARTS HERE!

stephen, wake up man. This is 2007.
Businesses have been ripped apart from Joker staff making ''full use'' of sick leave. If it were your business wouldn't you want to make sure sick meant sick. But then again we all scream that the business doesn't care, surely a call to check you are in ( not dogging, and off on holiday for a week) and are well is well within order.
SECURE, please define secure in this modern day? doesn't exist unless you MAKE it secure, striking and forcing business away does nothing to secure anything other than a harder bump at the bottom.
Competition is a good thing, keeps you healthy.

Anyway, keep on the soap box your colleagues need you. Maybe you could also nip by and help with mortgage/car payments, stuff for the kids, extra bite to eat etc

[Stormproof]

[L Tommo]

LOCK THIS THREAD AS SOMETHING HAS CONTAMINATED IT AND I SEE SOMETHING THAT IS FULL OF SHITE!!!


Its sad really that it still bangs on. Or better still give IT a thread all of its own... Let it go on about anything it likes for hours on end..

Then at least it cant say we all aint listened....


OUT

[BELIAL]

It could be the stress relief thread. You know ,get pissed ,dog bites you ,irritated by another thread, bad day at work, no worries take it out on armaneeee

[jackdaw]

L THOMMO, why lock this thread because someone says something you disagree with, we live in a democracy and we are all entitled to our views. If you want to make us do what you want and deny us a voice you're no better than Leighton and Crozier.

"I MIGHT DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAY BUT I WILL DEFEND TO THE DEATH YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT"

[dvbuk55]

I know that there are those who think that the union is misguided and feel that strikes will acheive little. I know there are those who cannot afford to lose money.
But i ask that you consider this:
If the union, which is us collectively, were to lose this dispute do you think Royal Mail would stop with these proposals?
When i started with RM all overtime was paid at double time after 12 hours.
There were no households.
If you had a big delivery you had at most two pouches!
Sick pay was paid to everyone, including new entrants!
My pension was SECURE!
I didn't get rung up at home to check on my 'welfare' regarding sickness!
Royal mail's aim is not only to get its way for this 'round' but to complete a knockout against the cwu. Then it really can begin its real agenda and who knows what that is?
Mail centres competing against each other?
Franchise deliveries with the franchise holder responsible for sick and leave coverage?
It could even get really riddiculous:
Postman paid for delivery by pouch weight!
STAND BY YOUR UNION, IF IT LOSES THE RACE TO THE BOTTOM STARTS HERE!

stephen, wake up man. This is 2007.
Businesses have been ripped apart from Joker staff making ''full use'' of sick leave. If it were your business wouldn't you want to make sure sick meant sick. But then again we all scream that the business doesn't care, surely a call to check you are in ( not dogging, and off on holiday for a week) and are well is well within order.
SECURE, please define secure in this modern day? doesn't exist unless you MAKE it secure, striking and forcing business away does nothing to secure anything other than a harder bump at the bottom.
Competition is a good thing, keeps you healthy.

Anyway, keep on the soap box your colleagues need you. Maybe you could also nip by and help with mortgage/car payments, stuff for the kids, extra bite to eat etc

The problem with armani is the suits he wears - probably with Prada shoes.

It would be best to ignore him, he is obviously young and misguided, his bent is to keep his Manager sweet. Hopefully he will never need to be on the sick. It's extremely unlikely he will be with us long he's such a smart arse he's bound to cockup.

A colleague had a hernia operation and came out of hospital 10 days ago. A line manager asked if he could pop in for a chat. He was asked if he would return immediately on light duties he refused citing the sick note he had which lasted a month. The manager told him he was writing it up that he had REFUSED to return to work. Oh yes this is the place to be in 2007.

[jackdaw]

Your colleague with the hernia needs to get his union rep straight in on that, he should also find out any possible repercussions and if needed he should seek legal advice. Why is it so many DOM's think they know better than the doctor?

WE HAVE RIGHTS PEOPLE, LEARN THE RULES AND USE THEM PROPERLY, VICTIMISATION AND BULLYING, THREATS AND HARASSMENT ARE ALL WRONG AND CAN BE ACTIONED ON. WE HAVE TO STAND UP FOR OURSELVES AND ALSO STAND TOGETHER.

[dvbuk55]

Your colleague with the hernia needs to get his union rep straight in on that, he should also find out any possible repercussions and if needed he should seek legal advice. Why is it so many DOM's think they know better than the doctor?

WE HAVE RIGHTS PEOPLE, LEARN THE RULES AND USE THEM PROPERLY, VICTIMISATION AND BULLYING, THREATS AND HARASSMENT ARE ALL WRONG AND CAN BE ACTIONED ON. WE HAVE TO STAND UP FOR OURSELVES AND ALSO STAND TOGETHER.

Good advice! This lad has a lot of service in and knows the score and he made short shrift of the managers suggestion with one of his own!

But it is easy to see how people could be bullied into going back to work too soon.

[frankie]

[leader]

I went back too early....promptly handed a stage two!......Won't do that again in a hurry!
My recommendation to all is: stay out until you are completely fit, any harassment by managers then straight on the phone to your rep, that's what we pay them for.

frankie
we reps dont get paid mate just doing it to look after the blokes and piss off management.

one out all out!

[deadbox]

If your worriewd about striking and losing money......then READ THIS post......You'll be GLAD to join the picket line

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/vi ... 6635#46635

You CAN'T AFFORD NOT TO STRIKE !

[DGP1]

I know that there are those who think that the union is misguided and feel that strikes will acheive little. I know there are those who cannot afford to lose money.
But i ask that you consider this:
If the union, which is us collectively, were to lose this dispute do you think Royal Mail would stop with these proposals?
When i started with RM all overtime was paid at double time after 12 hours.
There were no households.
If you had a big delivery you had at most two pouches!
Sick pay was paid to everyone, including new entrants!
My pension was SECURE!
I didn't get rung up at home to check on my 'welfare' regarding sickness!
Royal mail's aim is not only to get its way for this 'round' but to complete a knockout against the cwu. Then it really can begin its real agenda and who knows what that is?
Mail centres competing against each other?
Franchise deliveries with the franchise holder responsible for sick and leave coverage?
It could even get really riddiculous:
Postman paid for delivery by pouch weight!
STAND BY YOUR UNION, IF IT LOSES THE RACE TO THE BOTTOM STARTS HERE!

stephen, wake up man. This is 2007.
Businesses have been ripped apart from Joker staff making ''full use'' of sick leave. If it were your business wouldn't you want to make sure sick meant sick. But then again we all scream that the business doesn't care, surely a call to check you are in ( not dogging, and off on holiday for a week) and are well is well within order.
SECURE, please define secure in this modern day? doesn't exist unless you MAKE it secure, striking and forcing business away does nothing to secure anything other than a harder bump at the bottom.
Competition is a good thing, keeps you healthy.

Anyway, keep on the soap box your colleagues need you. Maybe you could also nip by and help with mortgage/car payments, stuff for the kids, extra bite to eat etc

The problem with armani is the suits he wears - probably with Prada shoes.

It would be best to ignore him, he is obviously young and misguided, his bent is to keep his Manager sweet. Hopefully he will never need to be on the sick. It's extremely unlikely he will be with us long he's such a smart arse he's bound to cockup.

A colleague had a hernia operation and came out of hospital 10 days ago. A line manager asked if he could pop in for a chat. He was asked if he would return immediately on light duties he refused citing the sick note he had which lasted a month. The manager told him he was writing it up that he had REFUSED to return to work. Oh yes this is the place to be in 2007.

armani's new f### me shoes

[BELIAL]

In view of recent revelations i am reconsidering my position on armani,and his shoes

[axeman]

shame the 'elsewhere' closed this pric* armani is most defo one of them can't keep his finger still what a wanke*
go lick your bosses ars* lame brain