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am i unique here ?????

An 'unofficial' forum for those who either work for Royal Mail or are looking to work for Royal Mail through the Angard Staffing Agency.This is an open forum.
sinbadsailor1962
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am i unique here ?????

Post by sinbadsailor1962 »

I started work at the Poole mail centre on the 2nd December just as all this pay business kicked off. The reason i ask "am i unique" is because i have been paid for all the hours i have worked. My only problem was that they always paid me at the wrong rate. On reciept of my payslip although very slow to arrive i have called Anguards pay query no and explained the problem to them and hey presto the difference was made up the following week. I have had no problems with them at all. However saying that i worked with a lot of people that were having a hell of a time getting angaurd to see that an error was being made each and every time we were paid. After looking a bit closer into the wage prob it turned out that we at the Poole centre were being paid £8.11 an hour for a night shift and £10.21 on sundays which i believe is very different to other centres.

Luckily for me it has all turned out fine and im still working nights at the Poole mail centre.

Is there any body else on this forum that has had no real problems with Anguard
markadam1962
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Joined: 11 Oct 2010, 17:19
Gender: Male

Re: am i unique here ?????

Post by markadam1962 »

If anyone didn't have problems with Angard they have now!!!! £8.11ph :shock: What were you handling at Poole? Nuclear waste?

If there was a regional pay differential £1.53 is a big difference. We are due an explanation for this one as well. :arrrghhh
Bombbay
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Joined: 20 Dec 2011, 15:05
Gender: Female

Re: am i unique here ?????

Post by Bombbay »

6.58 for nightshift in gateshead? Poole is not london weighting area so why is the pay varying that drastically regionally? How do they pick who gets paid what amount? All doing the same job are we not? What was the pay in scotland? Xx
Verging
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Re: am i unique here ?????

Post by Verging »

Each region/mail centre had its own pay rates. You need to check the Royal Mail website and your application. Go to the RM website log in to your application area then click on the details of the work you were offered and it should say what pay rates you should have been on.
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sinbadsailor1962
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Joined: 23 Dec 2011, 18:43
Gender: Male

Re: am i unique here ?????

Post by sinbadsailor1962 »

Christmas Casual - Dorset Mail Centre



Contract Type Christmas Casual Engagement

Employer Angard Staffing

Address Witney Road

Nuffield Ind Est
POOLE
BH17 0AA
About the job

The Christmas period is naturally a very busy time of year for Royal Mail.
To help us handle the increased volumes of mail we require casual workers to sort mail in our mail centres, and some to deliver the mail to addresses throughout the UK.
These are important tasks in ensuring all those Christmas cards and presents get delivered to the right address!

In the mail processing centres, the role involves:

•Sorting items by hand into compartments on a sorting frame
•Bagging and labelling mail for its destination
•Moving mail around between conveyor belts, loading docks and trolleys
•Moving mailbags from cages, sorting mailbags and bundles of mail into cages
•Loading and unloading wheeled containers from vehicles to the dispatch areas
We also need some people to deliver the mail to addresses in the UK, you will have the choice during your application to express a preference of processing, delivery or both.

Pay Rates
Age 16 - 17
Mon - Sat 06.00 - 22.00 £3.68
Sunday 06.00 - 22.00 £5.78

Age 18 +
Mon - Sat 06.00 - 22.00 £6.35
Mon - Sat 22.00 - 06.00 £8.11
Sunday 06.00 - 22.00 £8.45
Sunday 22.00 - 06.00 £10.21


I even got my pass on my first night which i still have and use to access the mail centre for my shifts
Verging
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Re: am i unique here ?????

Post by Verging »

Use this link and log in http://rmg.i-grasp.com/fe/tpl_royalmail ... zfrbvlrhuv" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - you should be able to find your details of pay when you click the link for the job you had.
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markadam1962
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Joined: 11 Oct 2010, 17:19
Gender: Male

Re: am i unique here ?????

Post by markadam1962 »

I thought there was a national pay agreement!

Pay Rates :shock:

Canterbury Mail Centre rates:-

Age 16 - 17
Mon - Sat 06.00 - 22.00 £3.68
Sunday 06.00 - 22.00 £5.18

Age 18 - 20
Mon - Sat 06.00 - 22.00 £4.98
Mon - Sat 22.00 - 06.00 £5.48
Sunday 06.00 - 22.00 £6.48
Sunday 22.00 - 06.00 £7.48

Age 21 +
Mon - Sat 06.00 - 22.00 £6.08
Mon - Sat 22.00 - 06.00 £6.58
Sunday 06.00 - 22.00 £7.58
Sunday 22.00 - 06.00 £8.58
Verging
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Re: am i unique here ?????

Post by Verging »

They are the rates for long term casuals - there should be a rate for Christmas casuals at your mail centre. I suspect you need one of the casuals who was a Christmas casual to log in to that site to find what Christmas casual pay rates were. They are the rates I have gone back to after Christmas and what I was on before Christmas period. These do not reflect the rates I should be on as a result of AWR.
Last edited by Verging on 08 Jan 2012, 20:39, edited 1 time in total.
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Verging
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Re: am i unique here ?????

Post by Verging »

Take a look here http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 47&t=40856" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; you may be lucky and someone from the place you work could have placed the Christmas rates up there. There are a few posted there and they all tend to vary for the premium times (nights, Sunday etc).
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markadam1962
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Joined: 11 Oct 2010, 17:19
Gender: Male

Re: am i unique here ?????

Post by markadam1962 »

Verging wrote:They are the rates for long term casuals - there should be a rate for Christmas casuals at your mail centre. I suspect you need one of the casuals who was a Christmas casual to log in to that site to find what Christmas casual pay rates were. They are the rates I have gone back to after Christmas and what I was on before Christmas period. These do not reflect the rates I should be on as a result of AWR.
So by the fact I have worked for Royal Mail since 2010 my pay rate is less than someone who just started in 2011? NICE :roll:
Verging
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Joined: 09 Dec 2011, 10:44
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Re: am i unique here ?????

Post by Verging »

markadam1962 wrote:
Verging wrote:They are the rates for long term casuals - there should be a rate for Christmas casuals at your mail centre. I suspect you need one of the casuals who was a Christmas casual to log in to that site to find what Christmas casual pay rates were. They are the rates I have gone back to after Christmas and what I was on before Christmas period. These do not reflect the rates I should be on as a result of AWR.
So by the fact I have worked for Royal Mail since 2010 my pay rate is less than someone who just started in 2011? NICE :roll:
I have worked since November 2010 and been in the same position as you. We got our rates put up for the Christmas period 2011 to match the Christmas casuals. Similar problem happened with the long term casuals for Christmas 2010 - they were on 5.95 the Christmas casuals came in at 6.25. This only got changed after a letter by one of the long term casuals to Moya Greene in 2010 and after a threatenend walk out by long term casuals.
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Leonard69
Posts: 61
Joined: 20 Nov 2011, 11:45
Gender: Male

Re: am i unique here ?????

Post by Leonard69 »

The differential rates were the result of supply and demand. They found it more difficult to get staff in the South West where there is less unemployment and therefore they had to offer more than in the industrial areas. Exeter never reached the staffing levels that they were looking for. At one point there were four of us doing identical work and each on a different rate of pay (permanent, long term casual, angard Christmas and Manpower Christmas). it was one of the reasons that I left.
ennabee
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Joined: 19 Oct 2011, 10:56
Gender: Male

Re: am i unique here ?????

Post by ennabee »

The affluent South East are often getting less PH than the South West with its many unemployment black spots. It could be more to do with demographics ie loads of 'oldies' who won't work nights. I found Poole and Bournemouth oversubscribed for days but they were taking on weekend night temps at DMC (where I worked overtime for three weekend nights via Angard)from a local Agency (CIty Centre?) on a day to day basis. Still Iv'e only been paid £6.58 for nights in Bournemouth despite querying it
massdebate121
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Joined: 19 Dec 2011, 08:35
Gender: Female

Re: am i unique here ?????

Post by massdebate121 »

Must be regional...

Christmas Casual - Southampton Mail Centre


Contract Type Christmas Casual Engagement
Employer Angard Staffing
Address Mitchell Way
SOUTHAMPTON
SO18 2XX
About the job

The Christmas period is naturally a very busy time of year for Royal Mail.
To help us handle the increased volumes of mail we require casual workers to sort mail in our mail centres, and some to deliver the mail to addresses throughout the UK.
These are important tasks in ensuring all those Christmas cards and presents get delivered to the right address!

In the mail processing centres, the role involves:

Sorting items by hand into compartments on a sorting frame
Bagging and labelling mail for its destination
Moving mail around between conveyor belts, loading docks and trolleys
Moving mailbags from cages, sorting mailbags and bundles of mail into cages
Loading and unloading wheeled containers from vehicles to the dispatch areas
We also need some people to deliver the mail to addresses in the UK, you will have the choice during your application to express a preference of processing, delivery or both.

Pay Rates

Age 16 - 17
Mon - Sat 06.00 - 22.00 £3.68
Sunday 06.00 - 22.00 £5.78

Age 21 +
Mon - Sat 06.00 - 22.00 £6.08
Mon - Sat 22.00 - 06.00 £7.84
Sunday 06.00 - 22.00 £8.18
Sunday 22.00 - 06.00 £9.94
john0745
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Joined: 27 Oct 2011, 15:11
Gender: Male

Re: am i unique here ?????

Post by john0745 »

sinbadsailor1962 wrote:I started work at the Poole mail centre on the 2nd December just as all this pay business kicked off. The reason i ask "am i unique" is because i have been paid for all the hours i have worked. My only problem was that they always paid me at the wrong rate. On reciept of my payslip although very slow to arrive i have called Anguards pay query no and explained the problem to them and hey presto the difference was made up the following week. I have had no problems with them at all. However saying that i worked with a lot of people that were having a hell of a time getting angaurd to see that an error was being made each and every time we were paid. After looking a bit closer into the wage prob it turned out that we at the Poole centre were being paid £8.11 an hour for a night shift and £10.21 on sundays which i believe is very different to other centres.

Luckily for me it has all turned out fine and im still working nights at the Poole mail centre.

Is there any body else on this forum that has had no real problems with Anguard
all angard staffing casuals (within 12 weeks constant employment) are paid the same.. and in the same way...this has been debated for month's on this forum.. so stop with the f***ing windups m8,,, the guy's on here that havent been paid or havent been paid the correct money thats due to them dont need this kinda s**t.... FFS 2 posts since it all kicked off 2 months ago.