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ET1

An 'unofficial' forum for those who either work for Royal Mail or are looking to work for Royal Mail through the Angard Staffing Agency.This is an open forum.
Leonard69
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Joined: 20 Nov 2011, 11:45
Gender: Male

ET1

Post by Leonard69 »

How many others have actually subimtted an ET1 rather than thought about it or threatened to?
If you have did you tell angard and if so what reaction did you get?
Chris110761
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Joined: 16 Dec 2011, 09:14
Gender: Male

Re: ET1

Post by Chris110761 »

Not yet. I've already got one against another employer for unfair dismissal and disability discrimination. I figure if they pay in the next couple of weeks it'd never get to the tribunal. Once they pass the 4 week mark though, they get the ET1. I'm afraid that I believe the ET system still favours employers. Have you submitted a grievance to Angard. The ET's like you to have gone through internal procedures first.
bobthedog1
Posts: 40
Joined: 09 Dec 2011, 16:08
Gender: Male

Re: ET1

Post by bobthedog1 »

Lodged the ET1 Last week, I have a date in February 2012 for a hearing at a tribunal, ACAS have appointed a conciliator in an effort to prevent this getting to court. It is my intention to get this into a court, ACAS are not needed. I am quoting illegal withholding of wages, and will be quoting the difficulties in communication with this particular employer. As for informing Angard, How?

They never answer my emails or phone calls. Hopefully a letter from the court service will shake them out of their stupor.
hantsman
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: ET1

Post by hantsman »

bobthedog1 wrote:Lodged the ET1 Last week, I have a date in February 2012 for a hearing at a tribunal, ACAS have appointed a conciliator in an effort to prevent this getting to court. It is my intention to get this into a court, ACAS are not needed. I am quoting illegal withholding of wages, and will be quoting the difficulties in communication with this particular employer. As for informing Angard, How?

They never answer my emails or phone calls. Hopefully a letter from the court service will shake them out of their stupor.
Royal Mail have to reply to your ET1 within a time scale. I very much doubt you have a date for a hearing yet! :roll:

Fair play if you are or have put a claim in though.
Verging
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Joined: 09 Dec 2011, 10:44
Gender: Female

Re: ET1

Post by Verging »

If you were also told to get your own Safety Boots and have this in writing you should be able to cite this too as this is against HSE regulations for PPE - it is the responsibility of Hirer/Agency to supply any protective equipment - this includes safety boots.

You could all be citing Break Times in breach of Work Time Regulations too. Unless Angard are excluded from Working Time Regulations they are breaking the law here. They have given us only 15 minutes for 6 hours - Work Time Regulation specify for a 6 hours shift the minimum is 20 minutes.

As RM management at some mail centres, not all, are forcing these breaks on the Angard employees we should be able to bring the RM to account on this for failing to ensure that Angard are operating within the law. According to Agency Worker Regulations the Hirer (RM) is responsible for ensuring the Agency (Angard) treats the worker (us) within the law.

I realise the main issue for most people going ET1 is failing to be paid or paid incorrectly but the more of the practices, breaching empoyment law, that RM/Angard have done the greater your prospects of winning. Also the greater the chance RM/Angard will be taken to task for breaches of employment law they have done and still are doing.
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steven100
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Joined: 09 Aug 2009, 12:35
Gender: Male

Re: ET1

Post by steven100 »

Its clear RM/Angard have breached many rules. Just count yourself lucky you don't work permanently. Although i'm sure plenty of people that have had good experiences will differ with my view. All hail hitler(Moya).
Leonard69
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Joined: 20 Nov 2011, 11:45
Gender: Male

Re: ET1

Post by Leonard69 »

This wasn't a rhetorical queston. I submitted an ET1 on 23rd when they failed to pay me what i was owed when I left for the third week running. I shall be interested to see what reponse I get from the ET people and angard
bobthedog1
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Gender: Male

Re: ET1

Post by bobthedog1 »

Leonard69 wrote:This wasn't a rhetorical queston. I submitted an ET1 on 23rd when they failed to pay me what i was owed when I left for the third week running. I shall be interested to see what reponse I get from the ET people and angard

If you fill in the forms correctly there is no reason why, like myself, you should not receive a prompt reply giving you a date for a court hearing. I received mine within 4 days of applying, and before xmas.
Leonard69
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Re: ET1

Post by Leonard69 »

@bobthedog. Personally I'm just interested in getting the £500 they owe me. If I'd wanted to pursue them for compensation I'd have gone down the County Court (small claims) route in the first place. Having got out before they could really f***k up my christmas (and having got a much better paid temping job since) I've not got the inclination to go through a legal procedure unless they refuse to pay for some spurious reason, in which case I'll have their guts for garters.
hantsman
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Joined: 14 Jul 2009, 09:33
Gender: Male

Re: ET1

Post by hantsman »

bobthedog1 wrote:
Leonard69 wrote:This wasn't a rhetorical queston. I submitted an ET1 on 23rd when they failed to pay me what i was owed when I left for the third week running. I shall be interested to see what reponse I get from the ET people and angard

If you fill in the forms correctly there is no reason why, like myself, you should not receive a prompt reply giving you a date for a court hearing. I received mine within 4 days of applying, and before xmas.

Does not work like that, The ET have to accept the claim first, then RM have so many days to respond, only then will it be allocated a court date, its not done in 4 days. It would be 6 months at least.
bobthedog1
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Re: ET1

Post by bobthedog1 »

hantsman wrote:
bobthedog1 wrote:
Leonard69 wrote:This wasn't a rhetorical queston. I submitted an ET1 on 23rd when they failed to pay me what i was owed when I left for the third week running. I shall be interested to see what reponse I get from the ET people and angard

If you fill in the forms correctly there is no reason why, like myself, you should not receive a prompt reply giving you a date for a court hearing. I received mine within 4 days of applying, and before xmas.

Does not work like that, The ET have to accept the claim first, then RM have so many days to respond, only then will it be allocated a court date, its not done in 4 days. It would be 6 months at least.

My ET1 is now lodged, and I have received the hearing date and venue details. I don't particularly care how you "think" it works, you are clearly wrong and ill informed.
hantsman
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Joined: 14 Jul 2009, 09:33
Gender: Male

Re: ET1

Post by hantsman »

bobthedog1 wrote:
hantsman wrote:
bobthedog1 wrote:
Leonard69 wrote:This wasn't a rhetorical queston. I submitted an ET1 on 23rd when they failed to pay me what i was owed when I left for the third week running. I shall be interested to see what reponse I get from the ET people and angard

If you fill in the forms correctly there is no reason why, like myself, you should not receive a prompt reply giving you a date for a court hearing. I received mine within 4 days of applying, and before xmas.

Does not work like that, The ET have to accept the claim first, then RM have so many days to respond, only then will it be allocated a court date, its not done in 4 days. It would be 6 months at least.

My ET1 is now lodged, and I have received the hearing date and venue details. I don't particularly care how you "think" it works, you are clearly wrong and ill informed.

:roll: ;liar