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Do RM staff get more breaks than Angard?

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Do RM staff get more breaks than Angard?

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This is just something I noticed on shift last night. I could be wrong but it seemed like every 1.5 hours or so, the "real" RM staff go for a quick coffee or a toilet visit whilst Angard staff are just left to work for hours until we're given "permission" to go on a break. If this is the case that it's totally wrong. We're all working the same shift, and in this case also doing the same job, so there's no justification for one group having more breaks than another.
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Re: Do RM staff get more breaks than Angard?

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we get an hour's paid break for an eight hour shift, and it scales from there. I think we were all pretty shocked to see what you all get, especially those of you working longer shifts.
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1979 wrote:we get an hour's paid break for an eight hour shift, and it scales from there. I think we were all pretty shocked to see what you all get, especially those of you working longer shifts.
Yeah but us on delivery only get 40 minutes on an 8 hour shift.
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guitar-mike wrote:If this is the case that it's totally wrong. We're all working the same shift, and in this case also doing the same job, so there's no justification for one group having more breaks than another.
If you're looking for whether it's fair or not you're wasting your time.
There is no fairness in the world of employment.

If you're looking for reasons it's mainly down to a substantive contract and union recognition.
Now are you looking for casual staff to have more breaks or RM staff to have less?
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Re: Do RM staff get more breaks than Angard?

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fishtank wrote:If you're looking for reasons it's mainly down to a substantive contract and union recognition.
Now are you looking for casual staff to have more breaks or RM staff to have less?
As we're often on our feet for hours on end, I'm looking for casual staff to have more - half an hour in 8 hours just isn't sufficient. I'd never try to take away RM staff's break just because Angard are treated unfairly - if the tables were flipped I wouldn't want someone doing it to us, and it's not the staff's fault in the first place. :Very Happy
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You could possibly have a longer break,or say an extra 15 mins later on in the shift,but you would lose the 15 mins in pay or you could negotiate working 15 mins extra.

It's just something i'm throwing out,whether the MC would swallow it as they would have to do extra organising is another thing.
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This is just a personal thing but if i was stuck with the 30mins and they won't budge i would rather take 2X15mins and break the shift up more.
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Not a bad idea, everything is worth a try I suppose. :cool
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fishtank wrote:This is just a personal thing but if i was stuck with the 30mins and they won't budge i would rather take 2X15mins and break the shift up more.
But you can't do that, one break must be 20 minutes around the middle of the day.
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DGP1 wrote:
fishtank wrote:This is just a personal thing but if i was stuck with the 30mins and they won't budge i would rather take 2X15mins and break the shift up more.
But you can't do that, one break must be 20 minutes around the middle of the day.
20mins and 10 mins then you pedantic b*******d. :chuckle
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fishtank wrote:
DGP1 wrote:
fishtank wrote:This is just a personal thing but if i was stuck with the 30mins and they won't budge i would rather take 2X15mins and break the shift up more.
But you can't do that, one break must be 20 minutes around the middle of the day.
20mins and 10 mins then you pedantic b*******d. :chuckle
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angard staff get a long break in jan :dance :dance
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Re: Do RM staff get more breaks than Angard?

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(Christmas) Casuals have always had shorter breaks than RM staff. Ever since I started at the RM in 2000 on the early shift it used to be 10 mins, 30 mins, 10 mins and then last year it became 10, 20, 10. Our RM staff at York disagreed with it but could do nothing though our Line Manager used to be fair and if he found the work had eased off because we were waiting for the mail lorry to arrive or unload, he used to either extend the first break or give us another 10 mins between the first two.
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At our centre - the simple answer is Yes
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it depends where you are working but you can get away with anything where i work. i take extra time on breaks and skieve about a lot and no one says f**k all to me. ive been told off a few times by workers and managers but nothing serious its piss easy to get away with things.