Atos

[phronsias]

I'm sure someone will correct me on this one if I'm wrong but I think your DOM has to have your permission before ATOS can contact you. Fair play to you for standing up to them!

Yes,they 'should' ask for permission.

Hi
Atos rang today and said someone will ring me Friday sometime between 11.30 and 12.30,what kind of conversation can I expect? By the way I wasnt asked nor did I give my permission.

Thanks again

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[General Mannerheim]

I'm sure someone will correct me on this one if I'm wrong but I think your DOM has to have your permission before ATOS can contact you. Fair play to you for standing up to them!

And what happends if you don't give them permission.......

[phronsias]

I'm sure someone will correct me on this one if I'm wrong but I think your DOM has to have your permission before ATOS can contact you. Fair play to you for standing up to them!

And what happends if you don't give them permission.......

Hi
Im sure my DOM would stop my sickpay!
Regards
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[wayoutman]

Hi
Im sure my DOM would stop my sickpay!
Regards
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very true, i had 7 months of agro with RM and atos leading up to my resignation in august.
the system is designed to break you down and make returning to work an easier option than completing your period of sick leave.

basically ATOS can only ask you to return to work, the final decision is yours so long as you are covered by a sick note but expect the usual "is there any reason you couldnt come in and answer the phone/put D2Ds in" or whatever else.

i did have my pay stopped some weeks due to missing ATOS phone calls, but i cottoned on it was winding my DOM up as he was getting it in the neck from DSM (so i obviously had to try it a few times)

i will point out that i had no intention of ever returning to work and if i had needed the job i would have approached it with a different attitude.

stick to your guns and make sure you stay in regular contact with your rep.

all the best with it mate and a happy xmas to all on RMC

[phronsias]

Hi
Ive just had atos on the phone,she said she thought the hospital telling me not to drive 3 weeks is excessive,and she would have liked to see me back at work before the 27th when my two week sick note is up.I also had a letter from my dom saying I failed to keep a EHS appointment on the 7th the day I went sick and I failed to keep another appointment on the 8th Dec and on the 9th,this is a lie I didnt know about there appointments,he then goes on to say If I fail to keep another appointment he will stop my sickpay and consider charging me with non cooperation of RM sick absence procedure,Whats the best way to deal with this?

Thanks
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[TeeferTiger]

Hi
Ive just had atos on the phone,she said she thought the hospital telling me not to drive 3 weeks is excessive,and she would have liked to see me back at work before the 27th when my two week sick note is up.I also had a letter from my dom saying I failed to keep a EHS appointment on the 7th the day I went sick and I failed to keep another appointment on the 8th Dec and on the 9th,this is a lie I didnt know about there appointments,he then goes on to say If I fail to keep another appointment he will stop my sickpay and consider charging me with non cooperation of RM sick absence procedure,Whats the best way to deal with this?

Thanks
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Write back stating that you were not aware you had EHS appointments on these dates and could he kindly advise you how these appointments were made? Had you been aware of these appointments you would most certainly have attended.

What an arse!

[hantsman]

Hi
Ive just had atos on the phone,she said she thought the hospital telling me not to drive 3 weeks is excessive,and she would have liked to see me back at work before the 27th when my two week sick note is up.I also had a letter from my dom saying I failed to keep a EHS appointment on the 7th the day I went sick and I failed to keep another appointment on the 8th Dec and on the 9th,this is a lie I didnt know about there appointments,he then goes on to say If I fail to keep another appointment he will stop my sickpay and consider charging me with non cooperation of RM sick absence procedure,Whats the best way to deal with this?

Thanks
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Whats your Doctor saying? Ask your Dom to put what he said in writing. I would advise not to accept phone calls from Dom and Atos, get them to put things in writing.

[phronsias]

Hi
Ive just had atos on the phone,she said she thought the hospital telling me not to drive 3 weeks is excessive,and she would have liked to see me back at work before the 27th when my two week sick note is up.I also had a letter from my dom saying I failed to keep a EHS appointment on the 7th the day I went sick and I failed to keep another appointment on the 8th Dec and on the 9th,this is a lie I didnt know about there appointments,he then goes on to say If I fail to keep another appointment he will stop my sickpay and consider charging me with non cooperation of RM sick absence procedure,Whats the best way to deal with this?

Thanks
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Whats your Doctor saying? Ask your Dom to put what he said in writing. I would advise not to accept phone calls from Dom and Atos, get them to put things in writing.

Hi
My DOM has put it in writing (3 letters)
Thanks
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[hantsman]

Hi
Ive just had atos on the phone,she said she thought the hospital telling me not to drive 3 weeks is excessive,and she would have liked to see me back at work before the 27th when my two week sick note is up.I also had a letter from my dom saying I failed to keep a EHS appointment on the 7th the day I went sick and I failed to keep another appointment on the 8th Dec and on the 9th,this is a lie I didnt know about there appointments,he then goes on to say If I fail to keep another appointment he will stop my sickpay and consider charging me with non cooperation of RM sick absence procedure,Whats the best way to deal with this?

Thanks
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Whats your Doctor saying? Ask your Dom to put what he said in writing. I would advise not to accept phone calls from Dom and Atos, get them to put things in writing.

Hi
My DOM has put it in writing (3 letters)
Thanks
P

What re "taking you off pay"

[phronsias]

Hi
Ive just had atos on the phone,she said she thought the hospital telling me not to drive 3 weeks is excessive,and she would have liked to see me back at work before the 27th when my two week sick note is up.I also had a letter from my dom saying I failed to keep a EHS appointment on the 7th the day I went sick and I failed to keep another appointment on the 8th Dec and on the 9th,this is a lie I didnt know about there appointments,he then goes on to say If I fail to keep another appointment he will stop my sickpay and consider charging me with non cooperation of RM sick absence procedure,Whats the best way to deal with this?

Thanks
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Whats your Doctor saying? Ask your Dom to put what he said in writing. I would advise not to accept phone calls from Dom and Atos, get them to put things in writing.

Hi
My DOM has put it in writing (3 letters)
Thanks
P

What re "taking you off pay"

Yes

[bogstandard]

ultimately the decision to return is yours, not atos. atos will cajole you to return earlier than the sick note. this then helps them of achieving their target of "reducing absence" in RM or whoever they are sub-contracted to do not forget they care very little about you only their bonuses. If you do come in it is your decision. It doesn't hurt to ask atos or even tell them to make contact with your medical team and between three of you you will find the answer about returning and what work you would be doing. Question their medical qualifications ask for a copy, ask for proof. if you come back 1 day or 1 week early the decision is yours and they will have achieved their goal. when you do return to work ask for a copy of the atos report, and pull them on it if it is not accurate. atos only have 40 minutes per call so string it out if you can, they will end the call if you go near going over the allotted time. If you are not happy or confident to return don't, and tell them, e.g. the lino/DOM view your return to work as you being fully fit ready to resume full duties sooner than is realistic or whatever the reason is.

[phronsias]

ultimately the decision to return is yours, not atos. atos will cajole you to return earlier than the sick note. this then helps them of achieving their target of "reducing absence" in RM or whoever they are sub-contracted to do not forget they care very little about you only their bonuses. If you do come in it is your decision. It doesn't hurt to ask atos or even tell them to make contact with your medical team and between three of you you will find the answer about returning and what work you would be doing. Question their medical qualifications ask for a copy, ask for proof. if you come back 1 day or 1 week early the decision is yours and they will have achieved their goal. when you do return to work ask for a copy of the atos report, and pull them on it if it is not accurate. atos only have 40 minutes per call so string it out if you can, they will end the call if you go near going over the allotted time. If you are not happy or confident to return don't, and tell them, e.g. the lino/DOM view your return to work as you being fully fit ready to resume full duties sooner than is realistic or whatever the reason is.

Hi
THats very good advice,thanks very much!!!!!!
All the best
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[phronsias]

My Atos report arrived this afternoon and to my surprise Atos believed me about my injuries!!! I see my GP in the morning and although my neck pain isn't as bad, my back is still as painful,it feels as if I've been stabbed in my spine between my shoulder blades,sometimes the pain goes right through to my chest .I know my DOM won't like the report because it supports me and if I can't go back to work next week no doubt the s**t will hit the fan again. I would like to thank everyone here for the very sound advice and wish you all a very happy Christmas and New Year
All the best
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[POSTMAN]

No s**t and no fan,ATOS and the doc are on your side,job done.
Get well soon,and enjoy a worry free xmas.

[phronsias]

No s**t and no fan,ATOS and the doc are on your side,job done.
Get well soon,and enjoy a worry free xmas.

Hi
Thanks for all your avice,have a Happy Christmas and better New Year!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks again
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