dvbuk55 wrote:At 18 there shouldn't be a choice after college, it would be straight in to boot camp for 2 years national service. Now there is an experience that would be unparalelled in instilling discipline and imparting skills.
And who's going to pay for that?
The Services no longer have the infrastructure to deal with the tiny army we now have never mind a couple of hundred thousand acne covered hormonal teenagers...and where would you send the equally troublesome girls?
There's no mills left dv.
Who would pay? - I'd have thought that was obvious - THEY pay for the benefit of being taught skills they wouldn't normally learn - humility, obedience, ironing, cooking, cleaning shoes, managing without computer games, facebook, twitter, blogs. I'd have thought parents would find it the cheaper option to pay a couple of hundred quid a month, tax deductable of course. The girls? - now who would do the laundry and cooking if we didn't include the girls - it would be back down to the river bank and pummelling those undies with a stone. And punishments, - I have definite ideas on how punishment would be administered.
Are you really dvb?? National service???? The last thing we need is all those scrotes trained in the use of weapons, fitter and able to think tactically ...........they're bad enough without training them too.
I'm preparing myself for the zombie invasion, rule number 1 - Cardio
DGP1 wrote:Are you really dvb?? National service???? The last thing we need is all those scrotes trained in the use of weapons, fitter and able to think tactically ...........they're bad enough without training them too.
Oh yes! It is the real me. The lads would do the manly things after training and the girls would look after the homely things, especially looking after the old people - I wouldn't have thought you would be too adverse to that DGP. As for being armed - well the real thing is much more dangerous than these computer games that encourage teenagers to shoot or stab their way out of trouble. You learn to respect the weapon if trained properly and not via call of duty.
box_shana wrote: I really enjoyed it, so much so I wanted to continue in the field I studied. Anyway I got a 2.1 and this opened the door for me to apply for studentships, where a research council pay for your course fees and living expenses. So for my masters I applied and was awarded a one year studentship from the EPSRC and for my PhD I was awarded a three year STFC studentship which ran out last October.
I presume then that to complete the course you need to write your thesis - so what's the holdup? I would have thought you would want to get it out of the way and put into practice what you have spent the last 8 years studying.
Ha I wish it was that straight forward, I have written my thesis, I am now waiting for my supervisor to read it and give me the ok, its a pity tough that he does not give a stuff about his PhD students, meaning it takes months for any feedback from him. Anyway after waiting a year for feedback for all the thesis, I finally got it recently, so its a case of doing the corrections and a little bit more that needs to be added, and I will submit. Then it should take a month to organize the vivia.
box_shana wrote: I really enjoyed it, so much so I wanted to continue in the field I studied. Anyway I got a 2.1 and this opened the door for me to apply for studentships, where a research council pay for your course fees and living expenses. So for my masters I applied and was awarded a one year studentship from the EPSRC and for my PhD I was awarded a three year STFC studentship which ran out last October.
I presume then that to complete the course you need to write your thesis - so what's the holdup? I would have thought you would want to get it out of the way and put into practice what you have spent the last 8 years studying.
Ha I wish it was that straight forward, I have written my thesis, I am now waiting for my supervisor to read it and give me the ok, its a pity tough that he does not give a stuff about his PhD students, meaning it takes months for any feedback from him. Anyway after waiting a year for feedback for all the thesis, I finally got it recently, so its a case of doing the corrections and a little bit more that needs to be added, and I will submit. Then it should take a month to organize the vivia.
Send it back as is box-shana with a sticky attached to the front saying "I know where you live" Bet he gets in touch
box_shana wrote: I really enjoyed it, so much so I wanted to continue in the field I studied. Anyway I got a 2.1 and this opened the door for me to apply for studentships, where a research council pay for your course fees and living expenses. So for my masters I applied and was awarded a one year studentship from the EPSRC and for my PhD I was awarded a three year STFC studentship which ran out last October.
I presume then that to complete the course you need to write your thesis - so what's the holdup? I would have thought you would want to get it out of the way and put into practice what you have spent the last 8 years studying.
Ha I wish it was that straight forward, I have written my thesis, I am now waiting for my supervisor to read it and give me the ok, its a pity tough that he does not give a stuff about his PhD students, meaning it takes months for any feedback from him. Anyway after waiting a year for feedback for all the thesis, I finally got it recently, so its a case of doing the corrections and a little bit more that needs to be added, and I will submit. Then it should take a month to organize the vivia.
Send it back as is box-shana with a sticky attached to the front saying "I know where you live" Bet he gets in touch
DGP1 wrote:Are you really dvb?? National service???? The last thing we need is all those scrotes trained in the use of weapons, fitter and able to think tactically ...........they're bad enough without training them too.
Oh yes! It is the real me. The lads would do the manly things after training and the girls would look after the homely things, especially looking after the old people - I wouldn't have thought you would be too adverse to that DGP. As for being armed - well the real thing is much more dangerous than these computer games that encourage teenagers to shoot or stab their way out of trouble. You learn to respect the weapon if trained properly and not via call of duty.
I learned everything I know about weapons from COD................I especially like the way if you're shot then you just go to respawn point and are all better again
You do like the young people looking after you........especially all the bed baths (and I thought I was the love of your life)
I'm preparing myself for the zombie invasion, rule number 1 - Cardio
DGP1 wrote:Are you really dvb?? National service???? The last thing we need is all those scrotes trained in the use of weapons, fitter and able to think tactically ...........they're bad enough without training them too.
Oh yes! It is the real me. The lads would do the manly things after training and the girls would look after the homely things, especially looking after the old people - I wouldn't have thought you would be too adverse to that DGP. As for being armed - well the real thing is much more dangerous than these computer games that encourage teenagers to shoot or stab their way out of trouble. You learn to respect the weapon if trained properly and not via call of duty.
I learned everything I know about weapons from COD................I especially like the way if you're shot then you just go to respawn point and are all better again
You do like the young people looking after you........especially all the bed baths (and I thought I was the love of your life)
DGP1 wrote:Are you really dvb?? National service???? The last thing we need is all those scrotes trained in the use of weapons, fitter and able to think tactically ...........they're bad enough without training them too.
National service Bring it on Last times we had lots of pissed off people weapons trained and disciplined we got homes fit for heroes ,the NHS and the welfare state
Youre told the opposite of this all your life - work hard and you'll do well.
Aye, this is one of those tiresome slogans that we are expected to parrot without really considering the wider implications. I think really we've got 3 choices with the most boring menial jobs 1) we share it out amongst everyone 2) give the highest pay to these jobs to encourage people to do them (the opposite of now) 3) we force people to do them on pain of destitution. Naturally, 3 is the choice of our society, just so a small lazy proportion of the population don't have to do any work for a living! (and I don't mean the vast majority of the unemployed who want to work).
You must understand that I am here purely as A BEARER OF MESSAGES.
Youre told the opposite of this all your life - work hard and you'll do well.
Aye, this is one of those tiresome slogans that we are expected to parrot without really considering the wider implications. I think really we've got 3 choices with the most boring menial jobs 1) we share it out amongst everyone 2) give the highest pay to these jobs to encourage people to do them (the opposite of now) 3) we force people to do them on pain of destitution. Naturally, 3 is the choice of our society, just so a small lazy proportion of the population don't have to do any work for a living! (and I don't mean the vast majority of the unemployed who want to work).
Well that opens a new discussion really Harry - should the most intelligent be paid the most money, when it is really the drones who produce all the wealth.
Youre told the opposite of this all your life - work hard and you'll do well.
Aye, this is one of those tiresome slogans that we are expected to parrot without really considering the wider implications. I think really we've got 3 choices with the most boring menial jobs 1) we share it out amongst everyone 2) give the highest pay to these jobs to encourage people to do them (the opposite of now) 3) we force people to do them on pain of destitution. Naturally, 3 is the choice of our society, just so a small lazy proportion of the population don't have to do any work for a living! (and I don't mean the vast majority of the unemployed who want to work).
Well that opens a new discussion really Harry - should the most intelligent be paid the most money, when it is really the drones who produce all the wealth.
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Who would pay? - I'd have thought that was obvious - THEY pay for the benefit of being taught skills they wouldn't normally learn - humility, obedience, ironing, cooking, cleaning shoes, managing without computer games, facebook, twitter, blogs. I'd have thought parents would find it the cheaper option to pay a couple of hundred quid a month, tax deductable of course. The girls? - now who would do the laundry and cooking if we didn't include the girls - it would be back down to the river bank and pummelling those undies with a stone. And punishments, - I have definite ideas on how punishment would be administered. 
) "interlinked" or not...
Bet he gets in touch 
Last times we had lots of pissed off people weapons trained and disciplined we got homes fit for heroes ,the NHS and the welfare state 
Well that opens a new discussion really Harry - should the most intelligent be paid the most money, when it is really the drones who produce all the wealth.