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Dissmissal a real possiblity? Take heed Do The Job Properly!

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daveyeff
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Re: Dissmissal a real possiblity? Take heed Do The Job Prope

Post by daveyeff »

surely, if they are going to peddle him for either not being trustworthy, or not securing the integrity of the mail, then they have pissed on their chips by NOT suspending him. he cant be trusted to do the job properly, or is a fraud suspect? ,,,,,,but just let him carry on working!! haddaway and shite.,,,,,2 year serious.
watdeadlyone
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Post by watdeadlyone »

simple answer is sign for nothing and 738 item.
if customer has to travel to office to collect so be it
Lounge Lizard
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Post by Lounge Lizard »

watdeadlyone wrote:simple answer is sign for nothing and 738 item.
if customer has to travel to office to collect so be it
Yes.
I know of a colleague in a nearby office who does this regularly, maybe five times a day, and why ? To save perhaps several minutes a day. Not a 'mistake', just absolute stupidity.
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Post by Spedley »

Signing for an item is handing over responsibility to someone else and not the same as confirming delivery.
Tracked items are confirmation of delivery (except signed for obviously) and not the same thing.

What would you do if someone signed your van out for you on your behalf without your knowledge or request and got a speeding ticket? Not too far distant from you signing for a customers package and the dog ripping it up.

I probably wouldn't sack him but it wouldn't surprise me if it happens.
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Post by blackadder »

being charged for theft and fraud aint very clever. owning up that you did it twice. well.... hes got 2 choices. the sack or leave
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Post by DGP1 »

I don't know why people do it, if someone doesn't come to the door then they can always collect it, I brought back 6 recordeds today, no hair off my back (maybe a little bit off the top though :whistle ).
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Post by Lounge Lizard »

DGP1 wrote:I don't know why people do it, if someone doesn't come to the door then they can always collect it, I brought back 6 recordeds today, no hair off my back (maybe a little bit off the top though :whistle ).
Sometimes I'll bring back a stack of parcels and signed fors three foot high - no problem. :Very Happy
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Re: Dissmissal a real possiblity? Take heed Do The Job Prope

Post by paddytoon »

Just a little update.
Thanks to some vigorous defence by the CWU the lad got a DISMISSED Suspended for 2 years. Which in the face of it is a result.

Basically got off with the theft charge and fraud but guilty on 4 charges of Failing to carry out Procedures for safeguarding and delivery of Signed For items.
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Post by motherhubbard »

Good news.
Is he a full timer or a part timer?
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

Good result - and if its not too much of a downer I hope he has learnt from the experience.
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Re: Dissmissal a real possiblity? Take heed Do The Job Prope

Post by parcelboy »

paddytoon wrote:Just a little update.
Thanks to some vigorous defence by the CWU the lad got a DISMISSED Suspended for 2 years. Which in the face of it is a result.

Basically got off with the theft charge and fraud but guilty on 4 charges of Failing to carry out Procedures for safeguarding and delivery of Signed For items.
lucky dude .I was dismissed for,firstly going home 10mins early in bad weather of jan2010,thankfully i did as this was to get my wife to see her dying mother.Passed away 5 days later .The next time a nosey neighbour reported me for being longer than usual at a customers house.My then D*** of a DOM fabricated a story in order to get me sacked .He and his lino have now been moved .What does this tell me :shock: they deserve it .Its true what they say though what goes round comes round.Lying corrupt pair of W****** :no no
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Post by paddytoon »

motherhubbard wrote:Good news.
Is he a full timer or a part timer?
Part time covering Full time hrs.
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Post by motherhubbard »

paddytoon wrote: Part time covering Full time hrs.
It would seem if you are p/t in an understaffed office you are virtually fireproof.
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banner18
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Re: Dissmissal a real possiblity? Take heed Do The Job Prope

Post by banner18 »

the only time it may be possible to sign for items like this would be for someone you are very familiar with, and also sign it in your own name, or else it is fraud. You are using your own judgement for this. For instance, I have signed for items for my best mate when he has been out.
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Re: Dissmissal a real possiblity? Take heed Do The Job Prope

Post by hantsman »

banner18 wrote:the only time it may be possible to sign for items like this would be for someone you are very familiar with, and also sign it in your own name, or else it is fraud. You are using your own judgement for this. For instance, I have signed for items for my best mate when he has been out.

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