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Re: Failed driver training

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Dont take it so hard ive known a couple of lads who failed first time around. :Very Happy

You get these jobs worth come along every now and then. You will have to wait and then re-take the test.
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Re: Failed driver training

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krussel wrote:Dont take it so hard ive known a couple of lads who failed first time around. :Very Happy

You get these jobs worth come along every now and then. You will have to wait and then re-take the test.
That's right, many people fail their driving test first time round too. :shock:
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Re: Failed driver training

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Lounge Lizard wrote:
krussel wrote:Dont take it so hard ive known a couple of lads who failed first time around. :Very Happy

You get these jobs worth come along every now and then. You will have to wait and then re-take the test.
That's right, many people fail their driving test first time round too. :shock:
A few special people fail it the second time round too. :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Re: Failed driver training

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Whats the rules when it comes to no driver trainer I was sent out in a van without driver training is this right.
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Re: Failed driver training

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Glenn83 wrote: ↑
22 Nov 2021, 18:48
Whats the rules when it comes to no driver trainer I was sent out in a van without driver training is this right.
When it suits them yes it seems, Been here since June, driving daily and despite saying it was needed after week one nothing has ever come of it.
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Re: Failed driver training

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There will be a temporary relaxation to the Royal Mail Group policy which is set out in Royal Mail Group (Safety Health & Environment (SHE) Instruction 8.2) which requires that new recruits receive RMG driver training before they are permitted to drive Royal Mail Vans.

The temporary interim arrangements will involve, as an exception, allowing new recruits to drive vans immediately on starting employment with Royal Mail subject to:

The new external recruit drivers meeting the minimum Royal Mail standards on recruitment and full driving licence check.
The new external recruit drivers undergoing an online assessment which includes testing of their driving knowledge, experience and hazard perception.
The Pertemps training has to have been booked for new recruit drivers.
They have received the ‘Driving for Operational Cover’ e-learning, (this is used for agency drivers and was what was used for new starters during the RMG Covid secure restrictions).
They have had a familiarisation of the vehicle session with a Manager or Workplace Coach.
Royal Mail stress the importance of compliance with these requirements, and will track training bookings against recruitment.

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Re: Failed driver training

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R5Rich wrote: ↑
02 Aug 2011, 17:55
I thought driver training was basically the do's and don't of using the van
Driver training is the do's and don'ts of using a marked company vehicle in public that presents an image of the company.

Imagine what people may think, or do, if they saw someone in a certain uniform behaving terribly: It brings the company (via the uniform) into disrepute.

The van is an extension of your uniform, and your driving is part of your behaviour. You need to account for how the company comes across via your behaviour. You aren't some random in a private car where noone can trace you and the police don't care: your a postie in a postvan and RM will absolutely know who was driving when they (and possibly OfCom) recieve complaints.
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Re: Failed driver training

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"image of the company". You're having a laugh...

Have you seen the state of some of the unroadworthy vans posties are bullied into driving every day.
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Re: Failed driver training

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Pumpernickel wrote: ↑
22 Nov 2021, 21:10
R5Rich wrote: ↑
02 Aug 2011, 17:55
I thought driver training was basically the do's and don't of using the van
Driver training is the do's and don'ts of using a marked company vehicle in public that presents an image of the company.

Imagine what people may think, or do, if they saw someone in a certain uniform behaving terribly: It brings the company (via the uniform) into disrepute.

The van is an extension of your uniform, and your driving is part of your behaviour. You need to account for how the company comes across via your behaviour. You aren't some random in a private car where noone can trace you and the police don't care: your a postie in a postvan and RM will absolutely know who was driving when they (and possibly OfCom) recieve complaints.
I'm not sure R5Rich will hear you Pumpernickel. He was last active in 2016! But your point is good.
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Re: Failed driver training

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ssdd wrote: ↑
22 Nov 2021, 21:18
I'm not sure R5Rich will hear you Pumpernickel. He was last active in 2016! But your point is good.

Oops!

I can't delete it now :oops:
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Re: Failed driver training

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Pumpernickel wrote: ↑
22 Nov 2021, 21:24
ssdd wrote: ↑
22 Nov 2021, 21:18
I'm not sure R5Rich will hear you Pumpernickel. He was last active in 2016! But your point is good.

Oops!

I can't delete it now :oops:
May as well keep it in. I think it's a good point. :thumbup
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Re: Failed driver training

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Jahpostie wrote: ↑
22 Nov 2021, 21:14
"image of the company". You're having a laugh...

Have you seen the state of some of the unroadworthy vans posties are bullied into driving every day.
I would agree some of the vans look a right state, even though they may well be roadworthy. Refuse to drive an unroadworthy vehicle.
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Re: Failed driver training

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Jahpostie wrote: ↑
22 Nov 2021, 21:14
"image of the company". You're having a laugh...

Have you seen the state of some of the unroadworthy vans posties are bullied into driving every day.
They ain't looking their best, that's for sure.
Those up top need to either employ people to clean them (and bash the dents out), or allot us time and equipment to do it (no chance). That said, they will use "image of the company" against you if you behave in unjustifiable ways.

Same as if a Stobart driver was videod plastered in a pub with their full Stobart gear on. Those sorts of things being shared on the usual social media services lead to people getting sacked, regardless of them having finished work and being on leave for the next week.
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Re: Failed driver training

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I drove so carefully on my changeover that it was painful. Passed it though. Lad who did it the week before got "high risk" due to having a full screaming fit in the yard at someone putting a York behind his van before he reversed